"Guy_Fawkes" said I don't think anyone has been decapitated over the burning of a poppy.
So a certain level of violence is OK? Many people here were outraged about the burning of poppies, and wanted all sorts of horrible things done to the perps. Imagine a country that doesn't have the same rule of law that Britain does, and you have what they are doing in Astan. Motivations aren't any different, people feeling disrespected. Those feelings are probably heightened when there are foreign troops on your soil, running the show.
Me I'm a free speeched. Burn anything you want as far as I'm concerned. IF only makes you look like an idiot. But if you're going to advocate violence because a symbol you hold dear is desecrated, you can't turn around and then condemn when other do it.
"Mr_Canada" said It's unusual how angry people can be over such small things.
No it's not. We identify with symbols, for ourselves and our tribe. Harming the symbol is seen as equivalent to harming us. That's why the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima is so iconic - it symbolizes dominance over the other tribe. Muslims already have a really bad inferiority complex because they've been stuck in the 14 century while the world has passed them by. (Well for Astan they're probable stuck in the 9th century or something). This inferiority is nurtured by their leaders to turn outward - always easier to blame others than look within for your problems.
"andyt" said I don't think anyone has been decapitated over the burning of a poppy.
So a certain level of violence is OK? Many people here were outraged about the burning of poppies, and wanted all sorts of horrible things done to the perps. Imagine a country that doesn't have the same rule of law that Britain does, and you have what they are doing in Astan. Motivations aren't any different, people feeling disrespected. Those feelings are probably heightened when there are foreign troops on your soil, running the show.
Me I'm a free speeched. Burn anything you want as far as I'm concerned. IF only makes you look like an idiot. But if you're going to advocate violence because a symbol you hold dear is desecrated, you can't turn around and then condemn when other do it. I'm saying you cant equate the two, I really dont know how much violence has erupted over poppy burnings. I doubt it is very serious. I dont advocate violence in either case, I think the same way about effigy burnings, go right ahead just make sure no one is hurt.
"andyt" said It's unusual how angry people can be over such small things.
No it's not. We identify with symbols, for ourselves and our tribe. Harming the symbol is seen as equivalent to harming us. That's why the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima is so iconic - it symbolizes dominance over the other tribe. Muslims already have a really bad inferiority complex because they've been stuck in the 14 century while the world has passed them by. (Well for Astan they're probable stuck in the 9th century or something). This inferiority is nurtured by their leaders to turn outward - always easier to blame others than look within for your problems.
The Jerk off reverent who started this stuff got what he wanted he ticked off the A-Stans. People got killed. The A-Stands have a short fuse with this kind of stuff.
From what I understand he is a very mentally ill jerk who needs to a thorazine break.
I for one didn't even know the twit had burned the Koran and I'm betting most others over here didn't either, so how in the hell did they find out about it in Afghanistan so quickly?
Sadly, this whole sordid affair just proved two very pertinant points. The first being that the Good Reverand is an idiot and secondly the Afghans should be left to live in their self inflicted feudal misery, since it appears that no amount of military intervention is ever going to ever bring them to democracy and the peace and prosperity we know.
So, maybe we should be getting the people out who genuinely want a better life without the Muslim 14th Century morals and ethics and leaving the rest of these quasi religous savages or should I say "protestors" to their own devices.
Sadly, this whole sordid affair just proved two very pertinant points. The first being that the Good Reverand is an idiot and secondly the Afghans should be left to live in their self inflicted feudal misery, since it appears that no amount of military intervention is ever going to ever bring them to democracy and the peace and prosperity we know.
So, maybe we should be getting the people out who genuinely want a better life without the Muslim 14th Century morals and ethics and leaving the rest of these quasi religous savages or should I say "protestors" to their own devices.
Amen. Except for getting people out - be way too many of them who say they want better, then try to play the same bullshit here. If they want a better life, let em fight for it and build it over there.
Andy and the Public Animal are both right. The Muzzies in A-Stan love to over react, protest and kill people. I'm am coming to the opinion that if they really want to live in the 14 Century that bad let them. I wouldn't bring the rest here though. I don't want this 14 Century garbage on this side of the Atlantic.
The civilized folks over there who want to join us in the 21 Century have either got to stop the protests and work with the UN or do it themselves.
"andyt" said It's unusual how angry people can be over such small things.
No it's not. We identify with symbols, for ourselves and our tribe. Harming the symbol is seen as equivalent to harming us. That's why the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima is so iconic - it symbolizes dominance over the other tribe. Muslims already have a really bad inferiority complex because they've been stuck in the 14 century while the world has passed them by. (Well for Astan they're probable stuck in the 9th century or something). This inferiority is nurtured by their leaders to turn outward - always easier to blame others than look within for your problems.
Here goes the troll with his bait. The wanker in the UK that purposely went out of his way, at a Rememberance Day service, to piss everybody off, got a fifty quid fine. As he is on welfare it will come out of his welfare cheque. All the events happened in England.
The decapitation of UN workers by an Islamic mob for the alleged burning of a Qu'ran in another continent is not even close to being a comparison. How come it's just in Afghanistan? What about the other 60 or so Islamic countries? Mmmm, maybe somebody is using this as an excuse?
But if you are a troll looking to argue with anybody for no good reason, I suppose you could equate them.
yup, nothing is an act of Islam..
bullshit
I don't think anyone has been decapitated over the burning of a poppy.
Me I'm a free speeched. Burn anything you want as far as I'm concerned. IF only makes you look like an idiot. But if you're going to advocate violence because a symbol you hold dear is desecrated, you can't turn around and then condemn when other do it.
It's unusual how angry people can be over such small things.
No it's not. We identify with symbols, for ourselves and our tribe. Harming the symbol is seen as equivalent to harming us. That's why the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima is so iconic - it symbolizes dominance over the other tribe. Muslims already have a really bad inferiority complex because they've been stuck in the 14 century while the world has passed them by. (Well for Astan they're probable stuck in the 9th century or something). This inferiority is nurtured by their leaders to turn outward - always easier to blame others than look within for your problems.
I don't think anyone has been decapitated over the burning of a poppy.
Me I'm a free speeched. Burn anything you want as far as I'm concerned. IF only makes you look like an idiot. But if you're going to advocate violence because a symbol you hold dear is desecrated, you can't turn around and then condemn when other do it.
I'm saying you cant equate the two, I really dont know how much violence has erupted over poppy burnings. I doubt it is very serious. I dont advocate violence in either case, I think the same way about effigy burnings, go right ahead just make sure no one is hurt.
It's unusual how angry people can be over such small things.
No it's not. We identify with symbols, for ourselves and our tribe. Harming the symbol is seen as equivalent to harming us. That's why the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima is so iconic - it symbolizes dominance over the other tribe. Muslims already have a really bad inferiority complex because they've been stuck in the 14 century while the world has passed them by. (Well for Astan they're probable stuck in the 9th century or something). This inferiority is nurtured by their leaders to turn outward - always easier to blame others than look within for your problems.
The Jerk off reverent who started this stuff got what he wanted he ticked off the A-Stans. People got killed. The A-Stands have a short fuse with this kind of stuff.
From what I understand he is a very mentally ill jerk who needs to a thorazine break.
Sadly, this whole sordid affair just proved two very pertinant points. The first being that the Good Reverand is an idiot and secondly the Afghans should be left to live in their self inflicted feudal misery, since it appears that no amount of military intervention is ever going to ever bring them to democracy and the peace and prosperity we know.
So, maybe we should be getting the people out who genuinely want a better life without the Muslim 14th Century morals and ethics and leaving the rest of these quasi religous savages or should I say "protestors" to their own devices.
Sadly, this whole sordid affair just proved two very pertinant points. The first being that the Good Reverand is an idiot and secondly the Afghans should be left to live in their self inflicted feudal misery, since it appears that no amount of military intervention is ever going to ever bring them to democracy and the peace and prosperity we know.
So, maybe we should be getting the people out who genuinely want a better life without the Muslim 14th Century morals and ethics and leaving the rest of these quasi religous savages or should I say "protestors" to their own devices.
Amen. Except for getting people out - be way too many of them who say they want better, then try to play the same bullshit here. If they want a better life, let em fight for it and build it over there.
The civilized folks over there who want to join us in the 21 Century have either got to stop the protests and work with the UN or do it themselves.
It's unusual how angry people can be over such small things.
No it's not. We identify with symbols, for ourselves and our tribe. Harming the symbol is seen as equivalent to harming us. That's why the raising of the flag over Iwo Jima is so iconic - it symbolizes dominance over the other tribe. Muslims already have a really bad inferiority complex because they've been stuck in the 14 century while the world has passed them by. (Well for Astan they're probable stuck in the 9th century or something). This inferiority is nurtured by their leaders to turn outward - always easier to blame others than look within for your problems.
Here goes the troll with his bait. The wanker in the UK that purposely went out of his way, at a Rememberance Day service, to piss everybody off, got a fifty quid fine. As he is on welfare it will come out of his welfare cheque. All the events happened in England.
The decapitation of UN workers by an Islamic mob for the alleged burning of a Qu'ran in another continent is not even close to being a comparison. How come it's just in Afghanistan? What about the other 60 or so Islamic countries? Mmmm, maybe somebody is using this as an excuse?
But if you are a troll looking to argue with anybody for no good reason, I suppose you could equate them.