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Farmer who shot thief pleads to negligence

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Farmer who shot thief pleads to negligence


Law & Order | 206988 hits | Jan 15 5:02 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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A central Alberta farmer who injured a man while defending his property pleaded guilty to criminal negligence Friday in a Red Deer courtroom.

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  1. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:24 am
    At first glance it would appear that our judicial system is once again punishing the victim but until I hear if he was robbed before and if so how many times, I'll hold off on passing judgement on his actions.

  2. by avatar Brenda
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:29 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    At first glance it would appear that our judicial system is once again punishing the victim but until I hear if he was robbed before and if so how many times, I'll hold off on passing judgement.

    Does it really matter if and how many times he was robbed before? I mean, these people were on his property stealing his stuff...

    The wounded man was flown to hospital by air ambulance with non-life-threatening injuries.

    Exactly WHY?

  3. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:42 am
    "Brenda" said
    At first glance it would appear that our judicial system is once again punishing the victim but until I hear if he was robbed before and if so how many times, I'll hold off on passing judgement.

    Does it really matter if and how many times he was robbed before? I mean, these people were on his property stealing his stuff...

    The wounded man was flown to hospital by air ambulance with non-life-threatening injuries.

    Exactly WHY?

    Sure, but chasing a thief down and shooting him, while extremely satisfying isn't exactly considered self defense. Had he got him on his property maybe, but hunting the scum bucket down and attempting to shoot him miles away isn't exactly a defensible action, especially if it's the first time he was robbed.

    But either way the guy is gonna get screwed. The theif gets an unecessary ride in an air ambulance and likely nothing for punishment, since theft under $5000 is a nothing charge, while the farmer is likely to end up with a large fine, jail or at best probation. So if that happens it'll confirm what I said before about the judicial system once again punishing the victim.

  4. by avatar Brenda
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:45 am
    Yeah, you're probably right. He should have called the cops watching his shit being stolen from under him...

  5. by avatar Benn
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:44 am
    "Brenda" said
    Yeah, you're probably right. He should have called the cops watching his shit being stolen from under him...


    Sure I mean response time in that area is pretty quick I'm sure. I'm betting what, 20 minutes is fast?


    Still the thing is, once we allow one cowboy to blow away a thief (Property loss does not = killing someone in my mind either) we open a whole Pandora's box of reasons to start opening fire and that just ain't good.

  6. by jeff744
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:46 am
    "Benn" said
    Yeah, you're probably right. He should have called the cops watching his shit being stolen from under him...


    Sure I mean response time in that area is pretty quick I'm sure. I'm betting what, 20 minutes is fast?


    Still the thing is, once we allow one cowboy to blow away a thief (Property loss does not = killing someone in my mind either) we open a whole Pandora's box of reasons to start opening fire and that just ain't good.
    Depends who is being fired on.

  7. by avatar Brenda
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:02 am
    "Benn" said
    Yeah, you're probably right. He should have called the cops watching his shit being stolen from under him...


    Sure I mean response time in that area is pretty quick I'm sure. I'm betting what, 20 minutes is fast?


    Still the thing is, once we allow one cowboy to blow away a thief (Property loss does not = killing someone in my mind either) we open a whole Pandora's box of reasons to start opening fire and that just ain't good.
    Well, you're right. It doesn't equal killing someone. I mean, it is a quad, the guy wasn't raping and killing his wife or something...

    20 minutes (if at all...) sounds great! ;-)

    Emotionally tho, I can understand his actions... Then again, emotions and law don't go well together, and rightfully so...

  8. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:42 am
    "Brenda" said
    Yeah, you're probably right. He should have called the cops watching his shit being stolen from under him...


    Actually, he should have caught the guy and put a bullet in the back of his head to stop him for stealing further... right?

  9. by jeff744
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:43 am
    "Gunnair" said
    Yeah, you're probably right. He should have called the cops watching his shit being stolen from under him...


    Actually, he should have caught the guy and put a bullet in the back of his head to stop him for stealing further... right?
    You forgot about hiding the body out in his fields.

  10. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:48 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    At first glance it would appear that our judicial system is once again punishing the victim but until I hear if he was robbed before and if so how many times, I'll hold off on passing judgement on his actions.


    The farmer got what he deserves.. in fact he got off lucky. One does not fire at a fleeing suspect. Don't want your property stolen, secure it.

    There ain't no law in canada that lets you pop a few off at someone running away from you after they stole your shit.

  11. by avatar Brenda
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:55 am
    "Gunnair" said
    Yeah, you're probably right. He should have called the cops watching his shit being stolen from under him...


    Actually, he should have caught the guy and put a bullet in the back of his head to stop him for stealing further... right?
    wrong.

    For a change, this was not a sarcastic post. He actually should just have called the cops...

  12. by avatar Brenda
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:57 am
    Don't want your property stolen, secure it.

    Not on private property.

    Don't touch other peoples stuff, how about that?

  13. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:58 am
    "Brenda" said
    Yeah, you're probably right. He should have called the cops watching his shit being stolen from under him...


    Actually, he should have caught the guy and put a bullet in the back of his head to stop him for stealing further... right?
    wrong.

    For a change, this was not a sarcastic post. He actually should just have called the cops...

    Your tone and meaning took different paths then.

  14. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:58 am
    "Brenda" said
    Don't want your property stolen, secure it.

    Not on private property.

    Don't touch other peoples stuff, how about that?


    Sure, try that out and tell me how it works out for you.



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