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Harper May Face Similar Gridlock After Today's

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Political | 206888 hits | Oct 14 12:43 am | Posted by: tritium
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When Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper called today's election six weeks ago, he complained that opposition calls for more spending were putting the economy at risk, and parliamentary gridlock had stymied his agenda, including longer sentences for cr

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  1. by avatar RUEZ
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:54 am
    Hard to say.When Dion loses tommorrow I imagine they will initiate a leadership review. The Liberals aren't going to be in a position to do much for awhile, and the NDP is irrelevant.

  2. by avatar kenmore
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:17 am
    so we should vote and vote ABC anything but conservative..

  3. by avatar hurley_108
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:47 pm
    "RUEZ" said
    Hard to say.When Dion loses tommorrow I imagine they will initiate a leadership review. The Liberals aren't going to be in a position to do much for awhile, and the NDP is irrelevant.


    And if Harper can't substantially grow his minority, or perhaps loses a seat or two? Do you think his leadership won't be "reviewed"?

  4. by avatar Wada
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:13 pm
    Harper may experience unemployment...for a minute or two. I'm sure some Canadian bank will offer him a job. :wink:

  5. by ridenrain
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:21 pm
    Poor, desperate Lefties...
    If Harper steps down, it's of his own choice. There's no evidence of backstabbing or replacement in thhe Conservative party.
    .. While in the Liberal party.. Dion's not even dead yet and the vultures are circling.

  6. by avatar RUEZ
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:27 pm
    "hurley_108" said
    Hard to say.When Dion loses tommorrow I imagine they will initiate a leadership review. The Liberals aren't going to be in a position to do much for awhile, and the NDP is irrelevant.


    And if Harper can't substantially grow his minority, or perhaps loses a seat or two? Do you think his leadership won't be "reviewed"?
    It may be looked at. I think the party has a lot of work to do in the next term. They've obviously made many mistakes and they will win tonight because of Dion.

  7. by avatar hurley_108
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:45 pm
    "ridenrain" said
    Poor, desperate Lefties...
    If Harper steps down, it's of his own choice. There's no evidence of backstabbing or replacement in thhe Conservative party.
    .. While in the Liberal party.. Dion's not even dead yet and the vultures are circling.


    If it really is desperation on the left, if it really is that all the fractiousness and backstabbing is in the Liberal camp, if Dion's leadership really is as poor as you'ev been saying all these months, then why isn't Harper polling well into the 40s, and sailing into a clear majority?

  8. by ridenrain
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:53 pm
    Decades of Liberal branding.
    For the most part, you could dress up a potted plant and it could be elected as a Liberal. It takes time to turn that around and maybe this minority government of Harper's did it, maybe not.

    .. so, any talk of Layton being replaced yet? How many elections has he failed now?

  9. by avatar Reverend Blair
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:56 pm
    That's just it, Hurley. If Dion is as weak as everybody says, then Harper is almost wholly incompetent.

    As for whether there will be gridlock again, yeah, if Harper tries to bully everything through, if he insists on continuing with the attack politics and the name-calling, then nobody is going to work with him.

    The first thing on the opposition agenda should be raise the ethics committee and find out what the hell went on with the in and out scandal. They also need to loo into the Cadman Affair, the attacks on the CWB, and the existence of a Conservative instruction book on how to disrupt Parliament.

    If I were the Liberals, I'd just forget about a leadership race for now. It's expensive and anybody they choose will just be the subject of a new round of Conservative attacks. Dion has largely weathered the attacks on him, so the Conservatives have little ammunition. The Liberals won't do that unless Dion wins, of course, but they should.

  10. by ridenrain
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:58 pm
    Dion and a number of others still has to pay off their leadership debt anyways.. :D

  11. by avatar RUEZ
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:59 pm
    "Reverend Blair" said
    That's just it, Hurley. If Dion is as weak as everybody says, then Harper is almost wholly incompetent.

    What's Layton's excuse then? He's not beating Harper either.

  12. by avatar Reverend Blair
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:01 pm
    He's lined up to increase both seats and share of the popular vote. Some of that is coming from Conservatives, not Liberals.

    Harper is looking like he will lose both seats...including ministers...and vote share.

  13. by avatar hurley_108
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:11 pm
    "ridenrain" said
    .. so, any talk of Layton being replaced yet? How many elections has he failed now?


    "RUEZ" said
    What's Layton's excuse then? He's not beating Harper either.


    Wow are YOU guys ever desperate. You can't bring yourselves to admit that Harper just hasn't given or promised Canada anything it really wants, so you have to bring yourselves down to questioning the NDP's inability to form a government. That's weak.

  14. by ridenrain
    Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:13 pm
    The whole crime topic resonates well with all Canadians and no party on the left has any authority to talk about it.

    It must be something like 3 or 4 elections that jack has run and they hardly ever make any headway.
    For all the bluster and noise you folks make, you don't have much to show for it. Maybe if you stopped working with the Liberals and got some serious opinions, voters would see you as a real party, not a bunch of spoiled brats.



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