[Newsbot]

Title: Harper May Face Similar Gridlock After Today's Vote
Category: Political
Posted By: tritium
Date: 2008-10-14 00:43:44
Canadian

[RUEZ]

Hard to say.When Dion loses tommorrow I imagine they will initiate a leadership review. The Liberals aren't going to be in a position to do much for awhile, and the NDP is irrelevant.

[kenmore]

so we should vote and vote ABC anything but conservative..

[hurley_108]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Hard to say.When Dion loses tommorrow I imagine they will initiate a leadership review. The Liberals aren't going to be in a position to do much for awhile, and the NDP is irrelevant.

And if Harper can't substantially grow his minority, or perhaps loses a seat or two? Do you think his leadership won't be "reviewed"?

[Wada]

Harper may experience unemployment...for a minute or two. I'm sure some Canadian bank will offer him a job.

[ridenrain]

Poor, desperate Lefties...
If Harper steps down, it's of his own choice. There's no evidence of backstabbing or replacement in thhe Conservative party.
.. While in the Liberal party.. Dion's not even dead yet and the vultures are circling.

[RUEZ]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Hard to say.When Dion loses tommorrow I imagine they will initiate a leadership review. The Liberals aren't going to be in a position to do much for awhile, and the NDP is irrelevant.

And if Harper can't substantially grow his minority, or perhaps loses a seat or two? Do you think his leadership won't be "reviewed"?

It may be looked at. I think the party has a lot of work to do in the next term. They've obviously made many mistakes and they will win tonight because of Dion.

[hurley_108]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Poor, desperate Lefties...
If Harper steps down, it's of his own choice. There's no evidence of backstabbing or replacement in thhe Conservative party.
.. While in the Liberal party.. Dion's not even dead yet and the vultures are circling.

If it really is desperation on the left, if it really is that all the fractiousness and backstabbing is in the Liberal camp, if Dion's leadership really is as poor as you'ev been saying all these months, then why isn't Harper polling well into the 40s, and sailing into a clear majority?

[ridenrain]

Decades of Liberal branding.
For the most part, you could dress up a potted plant and it could be elected as a Liberal. It takes time to turn that around and maybe this minority government of Harper's did it, maybe not.

.. so, any talk of Layton being replaced yet? How many elections has he failed now?

[Reverend Blair]

That's just it, Hurley. If Dion is as weak as everybody says, then Harper is almost wholly incompetent.

As for whether there will be gridlock again, yeah, if Harper tries to bully everything through, if he insists on continuing with the attack politics and the name-calling, then nobody is going to work with him.

The first thing on the opposition agenda should be raise the ethics committee and find out what the hell went on with the in and out scandal. They also need to loo into the Cadman Affair, the attacks on the CWB, and the existence of a Conservative instruction book on how to disrupt Parliament.

If I were the Liberals, I'd just forget about a leadership race for now. It's expensive and anybody they choose will just be the subject of a new round of Conservative attacks. Dion has largely weathered the attacks on him, so the Conservatives have little ammunition. The Liberals won't do that unless Dion wins, of course, but they should.

[ridenrain]

Dion and a number of others still has to pay off their leadership debt anyways..

[RUEZ]

Reverend Blair Reverend Blair:

That's just it, Hurley. If Dion is as weak as everybody says, then Harper is almost wholly incompetent.

What's Layton's excuse then? He's not beating Harper either.

[Reverend Blair]

He's lined up to increase both seats and share of the popular vote. Some of that is coming from Conservatives, not Liberals.

Harper is looking like he will lose both seats...including ministers...and vote share.

[hurley_108]

ridenrain ridenrain:

.. so, any talk of Layton being replaced yet? How many elections has he failed now?

RUEZ RUEZ:

What's Layton's excuse then? He's not beating Harper either.

Wow are YOU guys ever desperate. You can't bring yourselves to admit that Harper just hasn't given or promised Canada anything it really wants, so you have to bring yourselves down to questioning the NDP's inability to form a government. That's weak.

[ridenrain]

The whole crime topic resonates well with all Canadians and no party on the left has any authority to talk about it.

It must be something like 3 or 4 elections that jack has run and they hardly ever make any headway.
For all the bluster and noise you folks make, you don't have much to show for it. Maybe if you stopped working with the Liberals and got some serious opinions, voters would see you as a real party, not a bunch of spoiled brats.