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If NAFTA opened, oil could be on table

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If NAFTA opened, oil could be on table


Misc CDN | 206763 hits | Sep 07 5:32 pm | Posted by: tritium
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Democratic presidential candidates calling for renegotiations may not know just how good the U.S. has it under the deal.

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  1. by avatar tritium
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:37 am
    Time to cut off the USA and start selling our oil to China and Europe.

  2. by roger-roger
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:40 am
    Then where are we going to get refined gasoline and diesel from?

  3. by avatar Toro
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:01 am
    Of course oil would be on the table. Everything would be on the table. That's why there will be no serious re-negotiations.

  4. by avatar tritium
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:03 am
    "Eisensapper" said
    Then where are we going to get refined gasoline and diesel from?


    Maybe we will build more refineries, which will lower our cost at the pump.

    I like companies that care about Canadians and job creation. How about you Eisensapper? :rock:
    http://www.irvingoil.com/company/refinery.asp

  5. by avatar Scape
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:07 am
    "Toro" said
    Of course oil would be on the table. Everything would be on the table. That's why there will be no serious re-negotiations.



    Yup, that's why when ever any political leader says they are talking about it being on the table I know they are full of it.

  6. by roger-roger
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:11 am
    Thats possible but it would take years before these refineries were up and running, and where would be build them? This would also be after the ruling government has tackled all the lobby groups and the opposition keeping new refineries out of Canada.
    If there was a clear plan showing that by 2015 we would have enough refineries ready to sustain 85% of Canada's fuel consumption, I would support it completely. I really don’t see that ever happening though. Canada is just not industrial enough, and it seems like majority of Canadians are just crazy about climate change to allow the government to become more industrial.

  7. by avatar tritium
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:26 am
    Well when Obama talks about changes to the NAFTA and tackling environmental issues, what do you think he is talking about??

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=610810

    So what changes do you propose the Alberta Oil Sands will make? if any?

    If Obama wins, it will not only be a turning point for the United States, but just as big for Canada.


    "Eisensapper" said
    ...and where would be build them?


    Hopefully close to the oil sands, which is already an environmental catastrophe, can't fuck up Alberta more than it already is.. :lol:

  8. by roger-roger
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:35 am
    ha... ha...
    I have been hearing that the oil sands arent really any worse of then any other oil pumping site across the world. People just assume the worst because the area looks like a strip mine.

  9. by roger-roger
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:40 am
    Still if the Libs get in and they get the Carbon Tax going, there is no way they would be able to build these refineries.

  10. by avatar tritium
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:44 am
    "Eisensapper" said
    ha... ha...
    I have been hearing that the oil sands arent really any worse of then any other oil pumping site across the world. People just assume the worst because the area looks like a strip mine.


    I am sure will be glad to hear your opinion. :lol:

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#trade

    Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama believes that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. Obama will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers.


    Enough with the news sources that are generally bios one way or another. Read it on Obama's web site.

    Obama is a protectionist, that is why I have said it before. Obama is just Lou Dobbs in a black man's body.



    NDP Leader Jack Layton opposes Free Trade with US Protectionist and CNN host Lou Dobbs. Jack has finally found someone in the USA (other than Ralph Nader) who agrees with his anti Free Trade view.

  11. by avatar uwish
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:15 am
    aaa taliban jack.

    this guy makes me smile. He lives in a world that no one else does.

    grow up. Sorry there will always be 'the bottom of the barrel' in any society. Frankly tough shit we have enough social programs already. I am not going to let the defence budget be re-directed to social welfare.

    Lou was fucking laughing at him, and so was I!!!

  12. by avatar Bacardi4206
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:39 am
    "Eisensapper" said
    Thats possible but it would take years before these refineries were up and running, and where would be build them? This would also be after the ruling government has tackled all the lobby groups and the opposition keeping new refineries out of Canada.
    If there was a clear plan showing that by 2015 we would have enough refineries ready to sustain 85% of Canada's fuel consumption, I would support it completely. I really don’t see that ever happening though. Canada is just not industrial enough, and it seems like majority of Canadians are just crazy about climate change to allow the government to become more industrial.


    Where would we build them? On all the open space Canada has, Canada has the most land mass yet such a low population. All that land, without that many people will bound to equal a lot of land up for grabs.

  13. by avatar tritium
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:52 am
    "Bacardi4206" said
    Thats possible but it would take years before these refineries were up and running, and where would be build them? This would also be after the ruling government has tackled all the lobby groups and the opposition keeping new refineries out of Canada.
    If there was a clear plan showing that by 2015 we would have enough refineries ready to sustain 85% of Canada's fuel consumption, I would support it completely. I really don’t see that ever happening though. Canada is just not industrial enough, and it seems like majority of Canadians are just crazy about climate change to allow the government to become more industrial.


    Where would we build them? On all the open space Canada has, Canada has the most land mass yet such a low population. All that land, without that many people will bound to equal a lot of land up for grabs.

    No wonder the Green Party is kicking the NDP's ass. http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/3149

    How about building the refineries close to the source of the raw product??

    Less environmental impact, less transportation costs or a chance of an incident.

    Build a couple of refineries, one in Ft Mac and another in northern Sask?

  14. by avatar Ripcat
    Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:28 am
    "Eisensapper" said
    Thats possible but it would take years before these refineries were up and running, and where would be build them? This would also be after the ruling government has tackled all the lobby groups and the opposition keeping new refineries out of Canada.
    If there was a clear plan showing that by 2015 we would have enough refineries ready to sustain 85% of Canada's fuel consumption, I would support it completely. I really don’t see that ever happening though. Canada is just not industrial enough, and it seems like majority of Canadians are just crazy about climate change to allow the government to become more industrial.

    Shell cancels Sarnia, Ont., refinery for oilsands crude



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