Of course oil would be on the table. Everything would be on the table. That's why there will be no serious re-negotiations.
Yup, that's why when ever any political leader says they are talking about it being on the table I know they are full of it.
roger-roger
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Thats possible but it would take years before these refineries were up and running, and where would be build them? This would also be after the ruling government has tackled all the lobby groups and the opposition keeping new refineries out of Canada. If there was a clear plan showing that by 2015 we would have enough refineries ready to sustain 85% of Canada's fuel consumption, I would support it completely. I really don’t see that ever happening though. Canada is just not industrial enough, and it seems like majority of Canadians are just crazy about climate change to allow the government to become more industrial.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:26 pm
Well when Obama talks about changes to the NAFTA and tackling environmental issues, what do you think he is talking about??
So what changes do you propose the Alberta Oil Sands will make? if any?
If Obama wins, it will not only be a turning point for the United States, but just as big for Canada.
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...and where would be build them?
Hopefully close to the oil sands, which is already an environmental catastrophe, can't fuck up Alberta more than it already is..
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:35 pm
ha... ha... I have been hearing that the oil sands arent really any worse of then any other oil pumping site across the world. People just assume the worst because the area looks like a strip mine.
roger-roger
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:40 pm
Still if the Libs get in and they get the Carbon Tax going, there is no way they would be able to build these refineries.
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Eisensapper Eisensapper:
ha... ha... I have been hearing that the oil sands arent really any worse of then any other oil pumping site across the world. People just assume the worst because the area looks like a strip mine.
I am sure Obama will be glad to hear your opinion.
Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama believes that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. Obama will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers.
Enough with the news sources that are generally bios one way or another. Read it on Obama's web site.
Obama is a protectionist, that is why I have said it before. Obama is just Lou Dobbs in a black man's body.
NDP Leader Jack Layton opposes Free Trade with US Protectionist and CNN host Lou Dobbs. Jack has finally found someone in the USA (other than Ralph Nader) who agrees with his anti Free Trade view.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:15 pm
aaa taliban jack.
this guy makes me smile. He lives in a world that no one else does.
grow up. Sorry there will always be 'the bottom of the barrel' in any society. Frankly tough shit we have enough social programs already. I am not going to let the defence budget be re-directed to social welfare.
Lou was fucking laughing at him, and so was I!!!
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:39 pm
Eisensapper Eisensapper:
Thats possible but it would take years before these refineries were up and running, and where would be build them? This would also be after the ruling government has tackled all the lobby groups and the opposition keeping new refineries out of Canada. If there was a clear plan showing that by 2015 we would have enough refineries ready to sustain 85% of Canada's fuel consumption, I would support it completely. I really don’t see that ever happening though. Canada is just not industrial enough, and it seems like majority of Canadians are just crazy about climate change to allow the government to become more industrial.
Where would we build them? On all the open space Canada has, Canada has the most land mass yet such a low population. All that land, without that many people will bound to equal a lot of land up for grabs.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:52 pm
Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:
Eisensapper Eisensapper:
Thats possible but it would take years before these refineries were up and running, and where would be build them? This would also be after the ruling government has tackled all the lobby groups and the opposition keeping new refineries out of Canada. If there was a clear plan showing that by 2015 we would have enough refineries ready to sustain 85% of Canada's fuel consumption, I would support it completely. I really don’t see that ever happening though. Canada is just not industrial enough, and it seems like majority of Canadians are just crazy about climate change to allow the government to become more industrial.
Where would we build them? On all the open space Canada has, Canada has the most land mass yet such a low population. All that land, without that many people will bound to equal a lot of land up for grabs.
How about building the refineries close to the source of the raw product??
Less environmental impact, less transportation costs or a chance of an incident.
Build a couple of refineries, one in Ft Mac and another in northern Sask?
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:28 pm
Eisensapper Eisensapper:
Thats possible but it would take years before these refineries were up and running, and where would be build them? This would also be after the ruling government has tackled all the lobby groups and the opposition keeping new refineries out of Canada. If there was a clear plan showing that by 2015 we would have enough refineries ready to sustain 85% of Canada's fuel consumption, I would support it completely. I really don’t see that ever happening though. Canada is just not industrial enough, and it seems like majority of Canadians are just crazy about climate change to allow the government to become more industrial.
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