 Wildrose should disavow "Trump-style hate politics" in Alberta: NDPProvincial Politics | 207404 hits | Dec 05 12:16 pm | Posted by: Alta_redneck Commentsview comments in forum You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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When they can't come up with a cogent argument as to why they're right and you're wrong then they'll resort to calling you names.
Know their tactics and then call them out on their tactics every time they try to use them and you'll eventually beat the fuckers into defeat.
I thought they were the good guys. Weren't they the guys the NDP beat? Aren't they supposed to be the second conservative party, or something like that.
I think I get it though. Now we know why they lost. Albertans are closer to the action and can smell a rat.
This Brian Jean is one of those Progressives out to hijack an ism by masquerading as something from the right. Is that it?
Wilrose? Wait a minute...now I'm confused.
I thought they were the good guys. Weren't they the guys the NDP beat? Aren't they supposed to be the second conservative party, or something like that.
I think I get it though. Now we know why they lost. Albertans are closer to the action and can smell a rat.
This Brian Jean is one of those Progressives out to hijack an ism by masquerading as something from the right. Is that it?
Not sure what your trying to say? Did you get that from the video, because I can't stand listening to that slobbering morbidly obese individual that's shown on the video and never watched it. She talks about saving health dollars from dumping coal, maybe she should lose a couple of hundred lbs and save us some health cash also.
I believe it was a Ontario Conservative leadership candidate that was speaking when the chant went off. Jean was just one of a dozen speakers, but the left is making it out to be a conservative gathering.
Guess what CBC, there's a lot of conservatives in Alberta.
He said no one reported on the "F--- you, Harper" signs carried by protesters when Laureen Harper visited his office during the 2015 election campaign.
"Did the media report on that? No. But yet they report condescendingly on this anti-carbon tax rally and a handful of objectionable signs from individuals who were not part of the rally organization," Diotte wrote.
"I'm ashamed at my (former) fellow media members who are very selective at their coverage of politics. And they should all be ashamed."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/ ... -1.3882168
I don't even know who the characters are here. But I know this Diotte rep sounds like a guy who won't be pushed around and tells it like it is, while this Jean pussy needs to stop apologizing. If you don't want to hang out with the big boys then stay at home Jean, you wienie.
And what's with the Trump dis? How does he figure that makes him more palatable to the right? He'd rather try to sell oil to Obama, would he?
:evil:
Chanting aside, Premier Rachel Notley faces constant allegations that she’s against jobs and pipelines.
“Well, I don’t know what to say about that,” Notley said when asked for her reaction.
“I don’t know if the people who say that are real or just Twitter constructs. I hope we haven’t moved into the post-fact world to quite that degree.”
If Alberta isn’t quite there yet, we’re moving fast.
The day after Notley made the comment, people shouted “lock her up” at a big legislature rally against the carbon tax and virtually everything NDP.
Then she went to Vancouver to promote the Kinder Morgan pipeline.
Her schedule on the coast is deliberately short on detail, so that pipeline opponents can’t make her the focus of a protest.
The sentiment in that crew, mostly left-wing, would be pretty much the same — lock her up.
The Alberta right calls her an enemy of the economy; the coastal left says she’s an enemy of the climate.
Notley makes light of the chanting. On Monday she even came close to congratulating right-wing activist Ezra Levant for organizing the rally — “good on him,” she said.
The trouble is that there’s no nuance, no middle ground. We seem to be heading into the dark American world where truth is defined by the intensity of anger and emotion, not by fact.
Alberta’s conservative parties obsess over the fact that two members of the government’s 18-person oilsands advisory panel, Tzeporah Berman and Karen Mahon, oppose the pipeline.
This must be proof of secret sabotage, even though it’s obvious those people have no impact on the NDP’s pipeline policy.
The fact (the original kind) is that Notley launched a climate policy upheaval in order to secure a pipeline.
But now, even though Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the policy helped win approval, she must be against pipelines.
The “lock her up” chant, of course, was used against Hillary Clinton at Donald Trump rallies during the U.S. election campaign.
It was based on suspicion about her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state. Although the FBI found no grounds for charges, there was cause for public concern.
What’s the case for locking up Notley? There is none — no scandal, no hint of wrongdoing, no family foundation with a sketchy history.
The American attacks on Clinton led to president-elect Trumps’s first broken promise. He now says he won’t prosecute her. Even he must have realized what a horrible precedent that would have been, especially for himself.
But post-fact is on the loose.
On Sunday a man named Edgar Maddison Welch walked into a Washington, D.C., restaurant called Comet Ping Pong and fired a rifle. He was “self-investigating” a report that Clinton ran a child sex abuse ring out of the restaurant.
This vicious and preposterous claim began on a fake news site, the kind that now gets more readers than news organizations with trained reporters and ethical standards.
Only a few months ago, most people were assuming all this was a disturbing but minor social trend that would never gain power in the U.S., and certainly not in Canada.
Now, Trump continues to spout outlandish conspiracy theories. The son of his nominee for the National Security Agency retweeted the fake story about Clinton. The post-fact era has come to the White House.
This is not just a right-wing phenomenon. Trolls on the left can be just as nasty. Every word from Jason Kenney, as he seeks the PC leadership, is assumed to be evidence of a devious plot.
Conservative leaders quickly disowned the “lock her up” crew. We’re Canadian, after all. We circle American trends cautiously before adopting them.
But it’s becoming ominously clear that some politicians are testing the market for post-fact politics. It can get out of hand, very quickly.
Don Braid’s column appears regularly in the Herald
Twitter: @DonBraid
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DonHBraid/
The left ran out of original ideas years ago and now all they have left is name calling.
When they can't come up with a cogent argument as to why they're right and you're wrong then they'll resort to calling you names.
Know their tactics and then call them out on their tactics every time they try to use them and you'll eventually beat the fuckers into defeat.
That's pretty comical coming from the American Right, especially the Donald Trump right, which deals in nothing but lies and ad hominem attacks. Anything to continue their failed trickle-down economic policies that enrich the wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
As for the homophobic signs,
Graham Thomson: Alberta politicians of all stripes distance themselves from Saturday's rally
BY GRAHAM THOMSON, EDMONTON JOURNAL
ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: DEC 5, 2016
So, professional rabble-rouser Ezra Levantholds an anti-NDP rally on the steps of the Alberta legislature — and controversy erupts.
Quelle surprise.
Levant’s perpetually outraged online media outlet, The Rebel, sponsored the protest Saturday afternoon to criticize the NDP government’s impending carbon tax.
Levant insists 3,000 people turned up, but myself and other journalists who were there counted maybe half that number.
Still, 1,500 people coming out to an Edmonton protest on a Saturday in December is not a bad turnout.
Among the speakers was Wildrose Leader Brian Jean. That might have made for a news story in itself, but it became so much bigger when some members of the crowd began chanting “Lock her up” in reference to Premier Rachel Notley.
It’s an echo, of course, of the simplistic Donald Trump-led cry in the American presidential election referencing Hillary Clinton.
The chant might have had a modicum of sense in U.S. politics if you believe in the Clinton-related email conspiracies, but it made absolutely no sense in the context of Alberta politics, other than to betray a disturbingly ugly and unthinking mindset among some protesters.
And then there were several homophobic protest signs that popped up now and again including, “Don’t Let Gay Activists in Schools” and “Carbon Tax = Sodomy.”
When news of the rally — specifically the “Lock her up” chant and homophobic posters — hit social media, things began to really heat up.
Progressive Conservative leadership candidate Jason Kenney, who didn’t attend the rally, tweeted that “calling on our democratically elected premier to be ‘locked up’ is ridiculous and offensive.”
Federal Conservative interim leader Rona Ambrose, who also wasn’t a rally participant, said of the chant: “It’s not only unoriginal, it’s completely inappropriate. We don’t lock people up in Canada for bad policy, we vote them out.”
Likewise all sides of the Alberta legislature condemned the chant and the homophobic signs, with Jean going so far as to call a news conference Monday to share his thoughts: “I don’t think there is any place for it in Alberta politics and I wish people who had those desires, to have those chants, or have that signage would just stay at home.”
Jean said he never saw the homophobic signs or heard the chant because he had left the rally soon after giving his speech.
Lost in the furor is the fact that the majority of protesters reflect the sincere concerns of Albertans who worry about the effect of the carbon tax on the province’s economy and on their own pocket-book.
The twisted views of a minority in the crowd distracted the media’s attention from the anti-carbon tax message.
And Levant added a twist all his own. He posted a tweet accusing the NDP of dirty tricks: “I’ll pay $500 bounty for the identity of the NDP street team in sunglasses holding the ‘anti-gay’ placards at our rally to smear us.”
Then there’s the whole ethical quagmire he waded into by claiming to be a legitimate new media outlet — and then organizing an anti-NDP rally.
Levant has been playing the legitimate media card for some time and with some success.
Journalists across the country, me included, came to his defence last February after the Notley government banned The Rebel’s agent in Alberta from government news conferences.
We argued that news conferences should be open to as many legitimate media outlets as possible, even if Levant’s overheated anti-NDP rhetoric pushed the boundaries of what could be considered journalism.
However, by organizing a highly partisan rally, Levant has abandoned any pretence of The Rebel being a legitimate news outlet.
He is a hyper-partisan advocate. And that’s his right in a democracy.
But he can’t call himself a reporter (as he implied he was in a tweet on the weekend). And The Rebel can’t continue to pretend it is a legitimate news outlet.
gthomson@postmedia.com
https://www.google.ca/amp/edmontonjourn ... ent=safari
The trouble is that there’s no nuance, no middle ground.
Twitter: @DonBraid
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DonHBraid/
Dippers complaining about no middle ground.
Dat's funny.
https://www.google.ca/amp/edmontonjourn ... ent=safari
It sucks so bad at the Journal these days that they had to team up with the Edmonton Sun and share reporters, while people are sending Ezra $8 bucks a month to fight the good fight and subscribe to Rebel media. Hell, Ezra even paid for the buses that came up from Calgary and Red Deer out of the Rebel bank account.
It was bout Albertans protesting the carbon tax.