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U.S. and Canadian aboriginal groups sign treaty

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U.S. and Canadian aboriginal groups sign treaty to oppose oilsands development |


Business | 206636 hits | Sep 22 3:16 pm | Posted by: Alta_redneck
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MONTREAL — Canadian First Nations and U.S. tribal communities have signed a treaty to fight the development and distribution of oilsands crude from Alberta.

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  1. by avatar Alta_redneck
    Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:19 pm
    A week after the Ft MacKay first nation dropped $350M on a tank farm. :lol:

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:40 pm
    *yawn*

  3. by Thanos
    Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:44 pm
    Don't know why these companies keep trying to go through their land when this is the sort of thing that always happens. Just tack on the extra miles to go around the reserves and eat the fucking extra cost to get the job done. They'll more than make their money back in the forty to fifty years the damn lines will be in service.

  4. by avatar herbie
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:34 am
    Doesn't help when they've claimed 110% of the province as aboriginal land, does it?

  5. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:32 am
    These Injuns sure look look different than the ones I grew up with.


  6. by avatar llama66
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:24 am
    This part of the ensuring the nation gets fucked plan.

  7. by avatar andyt
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:37 pm
    "Thanos" said
    Don't know why these companies keep trying to go through their land when this is the sort of thing that always happens. Just tack on the extra miles to go around the reserves and eat the fucking extra cost to get the job done. They'll more than make their money back in the forty to fifty years the damn lines will be in service.


    I don't think this is about reserve land, but "traditional territory." As Herbie pointed out, FNs claim more than 100 percent of BC land, so going around would mean just going around BC.

    The courts have said the govt must engage in meaningful consultation with FNs about use of their traditional territory, whatever the fark that means. But the govt legally can declare that the use is necessary and thus override any FN veto. Thing is, is there a govt out there that has the cajones to do that, deal with the inevitable protests.

    Harper did the oil companies no favor by trying to ram things thru, just wound up causing even more problems for the projects. Including the Keystone one.

  8. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:01 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said
    These Injuns sure look look different than the ones I grew up with.



    They're also a lot more lesbian than the ones you grew up with...including the guy.

  9. by peck420
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:22 pm
    You know, it's kind of funny. About 4 years ago, I was shown a proposal by a certain Edmonton startup, looking for investment. He told me that his proposal would be the future, and I didn't believe him.

    Here we are, 4 years later, and his proposal is looking to become more and more certain. With every pipeline project being blocked, his proposal could very well become the only way.

    Damn...I guess you can't get in on all of the good ideas.

  10. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:59 pm
    BC First Nations claim 100%+ of the land because pretty much 100% of the land was used by them prior to contact with Europeans. The extra 10% or whatever it is is disputed territory. The land was never ceded.

  11. by avatar andyt
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:07 pm
    Yep. BC FNs claiming 100+ % of the land as traditional territory would pretty well imply that.

  12. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:11 pm
    Meanwhile, everyone drove their ICE powered vehicles to the protest.



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