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And unfortunately, any discussion of improving our system will be dominated by the example of the failure next door.
And unfortunately, any discussion of improving our system will be dominated by the example of the failure next door.
I doubt that. What we did back in the 60's was unprecedented. I don't think anyone will take what we've built and compare it to the mess that is the US system.
Unless they oppose universal health care to begin with.
One reason Hilary would have been the better choice in 08. I think she would have kicked a lot more congressional ass, been less concerned about seeming nice and moderate the way Barry was.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/
"And many people are finding the coverage is not at all of value to them because they can't get care. Either...their doctors don't take Obamacare or the deductibles are so high that they're never able to get to the insurance," Barrasso told a news conference.
"The president may call this a victory for the American people. I think this is something the president should not be proud of at all."
Barrasso noted that on Wednesday, Healthcare.gov will start reporting the 2017 premium increases for Obamacare policies sold on the exchanges.
"The news is not good for the American public," Barrasso said.
"We're seeing numbers in New Hampshire above 40 percent increases; in New York, above 40 percent increases; in New Mexico, where Blue Cross-Blue Shield of New Mexico pulled out a year ago, they're talking about coming back in, but only if they can get a rate increase of over 80 percent.
"So, the people that can still get their insurance, they may be the lucky ones in the sense that so many people are no longer even able to get the insurance they've had.
Cutting to the money...
"Coverage" does not actually translate to "Access" if people can't afford the deductible.
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Look at all the typical liberal buzzwords just in the first two lines of the article. Liberals - always using their fancy "facts" and "statistics" and "education". They think they're so special just because they're "literate" and "not inbred".
Who needs 'em!
Now he has to drive almost 40 miles to Roseville to see one of the few doctors who will take Obamacare and he has to pay $250 per visit and $5,000 deductible per year before anything is covered. Consequently he's doing without care because he's also on permanent disability and can't afford it.
That's quite the opposite of access even though he has insurance.
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Look at all the typical liberal buzzwords just in the first two lines of the article. Liberals - always using their fancy "facts" and "statistics" and "education". They think they're so special just because they're "literate" and "not inbred".
Who needs 'em!
Appeal to authority.
Also, does not mean .
Point of fact: My friend Chris was forced off of his Kaiser coverage which had copays of $15 per visit and no deductibles on to an Obamacare plan.
Another point of fact; I've had coverage since I was born. For a while, I payed $60 a month for coverage. Now it's built into the provincial budget that everyone is covered, no premiums and no co-pay.
And the third leading cause of death in the US, after Cancer and Heart Disease, is Medical Error.
Yea, I know we go here every time the subject comes up. But all Canadians want is for you guys to experience what we already know!
Point of fact: My friend Chris was forced off of his Kaiser coverage which had copays of $15 per visit and no deductibles on to an Obamacare plan.
Now he has to drive almost 40 miles to Roseville to see one of the few doctors who will take Obamacare and he has to pay $250 per visit and $5,000 deductible per year before anything is covered. Consequently he's doing without care because he's also on permanent disability and can't afford it.
That's quite the opposite of access even though he has insurance.
None of that makes sense. First, Obamacare didn't force employers or insurers to cancel or reduce their coverage. If his employer or insurer dumped him in some kind of cynical move, it's on them.
Second, "Obamacare plans" are just plans from the same private insurance companies, including Kaiser Permanente. So maybe your friend switched from KP to Blue Cross or some other private insurer and there's no doctor in his area affiliated with Blue Cross. That's another problem with your system: in Canada, there's only one insurer and every doctor takes it. In the US, many doctors are affiliated only with certain insurers and if you don't have their particular insurer, you can't see that doctor.
Point of fact: My friend Chris was forced off of his Kaiser coverage which had copays of $15 per visit and no deductibles on to an Obamacare plan.
Now he has to drive almost 40 miles to Roseville to see one of the few doctors who will take Obamacare and he has to pay $250 per visit and $5,000 deductible per year before anything is covered. Consequently he's doing without care because he's also on permanent disability and can't afford it.
That's quite the opposite of access even though he has insurance.
None of that makes sense. First, Obamacare didn't force employers or insurers to cancel or reduce their coverage. If his employer or insurer dumped him in some kind of cynical move, it's on them.
Second, "Obamacare plans" are just plans from the same private insurance companies, including Kaiser Permanente. So maybe your friend switched from KP to Blue Cross or some other private insurer and there's no doctor in his area affiliated with Blue Cross. That's another problem with your system: in Canada, there's only one insurer and every doctor takes it. In the US, many doctors are affiliated only with certain insurers and if you don't have their particular insurer, you can't see that doctor.
But again, you fail to explain exactly how/why he lost his Kaiser coverage and your complaint seems to be the that the government-subsidised plan under Obamacare isn't generous enough. Is that your complaint about Obamacare, that it's not generous enough and should go further?
Is that your complaint about Obamacare, that it's not generous enough and should go further?
Ummm, I think he was saying the deductible gets jacked up so high that no one can pay it, short of a devastating injury.
But again, you fail to explain exactly how/why he lost his Kaiser coverage
BECAUSE THE FUCKING LAW FORCED HIM OFF OF KAISER JUST LIKE IT DID TENS OF THOUSANDS OF OTHER PEOPLE!!!!
Jesus, why are you being so dense today?