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TD Visa customers' browsing activities open to 'surveillance' by bank


Business | 207908 hits | Nov 30 6:36 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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Canada's second-biggest bank is being criticized for part of its Visa cardholder agreement that allows TD Canada Trust to access and collect information on all of its customers' online activities, even those that aren't banking-related.

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:47 pm
    So how does the bank monitor your activity? contact your ISP?

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:53 pm
    "andyt" said
    So how does the bank monitor your activity? contact your ISP?


    When you go to their website they put a tracking cookie on your computer. The lesson here is to clear your cache after visiting the bank (you should do this anyway) and then set your browser to refuse tracking cookies.

    Also, fuck that bank. Get a new bank.

  3. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:55 pm
    "andyt" said
    So how does the bank monitor your activity? contact your ISP?


    When you open their site, they run a 'script'. Part of that script is to translate their record to the pretty display you see on the screen. Part of the script will also do things like send your browsing history back to them, and send you email contacts to them as well.

    Some websites, like CKA, run other scripts from Facebook.net or Google Analytics that do the same thing, and share data with 'partners'. Facebook.net's scripts are one of ones that can track pretty much everything you do on the web.

    That's why one day you can look for a widget, and the next day every damn website you go to has advertisements trying to sell you widgets. The internet used to be about sharing ideas and information, now it's mostly just another way to part you from your money.

  4. by avatar andyt
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:56 pm
    Holy shit.

  5. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:00 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    So how does the bank monitor your activity? contact your ISP?


    When you go to their website they put a tracking cookie on your computer. The lesson here is to clear your cache after visiting the bank (you should do this anyway) and then set your browser to refuse tracking cookies.

    Also, fuck that bank. Get a new bank.

    It's not just Browser Cookies. There are things like Adobe Typefont and Abobe Flash that set 'supercookies' that track you even if you clear your cache and don't allow websites to set cookies.

    And then there are mobile phones - where you not only get tracked site to site, but your physical location. And your physical location inside stores!

  6. by avatar BRAH
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:10 pm
    8O

  7. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:47 pm
    "DrCaleb" said

    It's not just Browser Cookies. There are things like Adobe Typefont and Abobe Flash that set 'supercookies' that track you even if you clear your cache and don't allow websites to set cookies.


    I haven't used Adobe software for over a year because of their security problems.

    "DrCaleb" said

    And then there are mobile phones - where you not only get tracked site to site, but your physical location. And your physical location inside stores!


    And my phone is almost always off and the wifi is only ever on when I'm at home. Again, it's a security concern.

  8. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:04 pm
    "BartSimpson" said

    It's not just Browser Cookies. There are things like Adobe Typefont and Abobe Flash that set 'supercookies' that track you even if you clear your cache and don't allow websites to set cookies.


    I haven't used Adobe software for over a year because of their security problems.

    A wise decision. Now if Java will just die the horrible death it deserves. . .

    "BartSimpson" said


    And then there are mobile phones - where you not only get tracked site to site, but your physical location. And your physical location inside stores!


    And my phone is almost always off and the wifi is only ever on when I'm at home. Again, it's a security concern.

    It's not Wi-fi that's the problem, it's 'Location Awareness'. There's a GPS receiver on board that software can read and locate your position. It can be turned off though.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-secr ... ads-2013-2

  9. by avatar PluggyRug
    Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:16 pm
    "DrCaleb" said


    Now if Java will just die the horrible death it deserves. . .



    I'll second that.

  10. by avatar kitty
    Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:06 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    So how does the bank monitor your activity? contact your ISP?


    When you go to their website they put a tracking cookie on your computer. The lesson here is to clear your cache after visiting the bank (you should do this anyway) and then set your browser to refuse tracking cookies.

    Also, fuck that bank. Get a new bank.

    It's not just Browser Cookies. There are things like Adobe Typefont and Abobe Flash that set 'supercookies' that track you even if you clear your cache and don't allow websites to set cookies.

    And then there are mobile phones - where you not only get tracked site to site, but your physical location. And your physical location inside stores!

    Remarketing works GREAT. I convert lots of searches into purchases with it.

    Remarketing is a powerful way to stay engaged with your target audience. Presenting them with highly relevant ads and offers across the Web -- and making sure your brand is top of mind when they're ready to buy –- can radically improve ROI.

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  11. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:54 pm
    "kitty" said

    When you go to their website they put a tracking cookie on your computer. The lesson here is to clear your cache after visiting the bank (you should do this anyway) and then set your browser to refuse tracking cookies.

    Also, fuck that bank. Get a new bank.


    It's not just Browser Cookies. There are things like Adobe Typefont and Abobe Flash that set 'supercookies' that track you even if you clear your cache and don't allow websites to set cookies.

    And then there are mobile phones - where you not only get tracked site to site, but your physical location. And your physical location inside stores!

    Remarketing works GREAT. I convert lots of searches into purchases with it.

    Remarketing is a powerful way to stay engaged with your target audience. Presenting them with highly relevant ads and offers across the Web -- and making sure your brand is top of mind when they're ready to buy –- can radically improve ROI.

    https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/2454000?hl=en

    What makes them think that the computer I built, and maintain, and pay to power - is a vehicle for their advertising campaign? You want to advertise your wares to me? Buy a billboard.

    I decide what happens on the equipment I own, not anyone else.

  12. by avatar andyt
    Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:57 pm
    "DrCaleb" said




    What makes them think that the computer I built, and maintain, and pay to power - is a vehicle for their advertising campaign? You want to advertise your wares to me? Buy a billboard.

    I decide what happens on the equipment I own, not anyone else.


    Companies do this to "service" you better. Always make me recall the Steinbeck quoate (paraphrased) that after he saw a bull "servicing" a heifer he finally understood what businessmen meant when they talked about service.



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