"When you add it all up, it comes up to about 14.5 percent of greenhouse gas comes from the animal agriculture sector," the "Avatar" director says. "That’s bigger than all transportation combined."
From King of the World to Chicken of the Sea: Director James Cameron challenges climate skeptics to debate and then bails out at last minute
“I want to call those deniers out into the street at high noon and shoot it out with those boneheads,” he said in an interview.
Well, a few weeks ago Mr. Cameron seemed to honor his word.
His representatives contacted myself and two other well known skeptics, Marc Morano of the Climate Depot website and Andrew Breitbart, the new media entrepreneur.
Mr. Cameron was attending the AREDAY environmental conference in Aspen Colorado 19-22 August. He wanted the conference to end with a debate on climate change. Cameron would be flanked with two scientists. It would be 90 minutes long. It would be streamed live on the internet.
They hoped the debate would attract a lot of media coverage.
“We are delighted to have Fox News, Newsmax, The Washington Times and anyone else you’d like. The more the better,” one of James Cameron’s organizers said in an email.
It looked like James Cameron really was a man of his word who would get to take on the skeptics he felt were so endangering humanity.
Everyone on our side agreed with their conditions. The debate was even listed on the AREDAY agenda.
But then as the debate approached James Cameron’s side started changing the rules. They wanted to change their team. We agreed.
They wanted to change the format to less of a debate—to “a roundtable”. We agreed.
Then they wanted to ban our cameras from the debate. We could have access to their footage. We agreed.
Bizarrely, for a brief while, the worlds most successful film maker suggested that no cameras should be allowed-that sound only should be recorded. We agreed.
Then finally James Cameron, who so publicly announced that he “wanted to call those deniers out into the street at high noon and shoot it out,” decided to ban the media from the shoot out.
He even wanted to ban the public. The debate/roundtable would only be open to those who attended the conference.
No media would be allowed and there would be no streaming on the internet. No one would be allowed to record it in any way.
We all agreed to that.
And then, yesterday, just one day before the debate, his representatives sent an email that Mr. “shoot it out ” Cameron no longer wanted to take part. The debate was cancelled.
"N_Fiddledog" said From King of the World to Chicken of the Sea: Director James Cameron challenges climate skeptics to debate and then bails out at last minute
“I want to call those deniers out into the street at high noon and shoot it out with those boneheads,” he said in an interview.
Well, a few weeks ago Mr. Cameron seemed to honor his word.
His representatives contacted myself and two other well known skeptics, Marc Morano of the Climate Depot website and Andrew Breitbart, the new media entrepreneur.
Mr. Cameron was attending the AREDAY environmental conference in Aspen Colorado 19-22 August. He wanted the conference to end with a debate on climate change. Cameron would be flanked with two scientists. It would be 90 minutes long. It would be streamed live on the internet.
They hoped the debate would attract a lot of media coverage.
“We are delighted to have Fox News, Newsmax, The Washington Times and anyone else you’d like. The more the better,” one of James Cameron’s organizers said in an email.
It looked like James Cameron really was a man of his word who would get to take on the skeptics he felt were so endangering humanity.
Everyone on our side agreed with their conditions. The debate was even listed on the AREDAY agenda.
But then as the debate approached James Cameron’s side started changing the rules. They wanted to change their team. We agreed.
They wanted to change the format to less of a debate—to “a roundtable”. We agreed.
Then they wanted to ban our cameras from the debate. We could have access to their footage. We agreed.
Bizarrely, for a brief while, the worlds most successful film maker suggested that no cameras should be allowed-that sound only should be recorded. We agreed.
Then finally James Cameron, who so publicly announced that he “wanted to call those deniers out into the street at high noon and shoot it out,” decided to ban the media from the shoot out.
He even wanted to ban the public. The debate/roundtable would only be open to those who attended the conference.
No media would be allowed and there would be no streaming on the internet. No one would be allowed to record it in any way.
We all agreed to that.
And then, yesterday, just one day before the debate, his representatives sent an email that Mr. “shoot it out ” Cameron no longer wanted to take part. The debate was cancelled.
There's quite likely a logical explanation for his abrupt decision not to participate in a discussion, roundtable, debate with people who can't comprehend his superior intellect, wisdom and vision.
Maybe he got called back to his home planet of Pandora or maybe they just found the Titanic but, either way I'm sure he's got a very good reason for not attending after calling out his lessers and craven cowardice isn't it.
"xerxes" said And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
That's not true. We have cleaner air and water than we did 30 years ago when everyone was justly concerned about acid rain and air pollution. Even China is starting to enact serious environmental protections.
Microbeads in soap are being banned because of the damage they do.
And liberals are aborting and birth-controlling themselves into demographic irrelevance and that surely helps by reducing the number of people using private jets and limousines to attend global warming conferences.
"xerxes" said And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
"xerxes" said And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
Exactly. We live in a "me first" society now and that probably won't change for a generation or two, if it changes at all.
And I confess I'm one of them. Recently bought a Jeep cuz I'm retired, I could afford it, don't need to carry kids and I wanted one since I was eight years old. After a lifetime of sensible Honda Civics, Golfs, Caravans and Saturns now I go 'Holy Fuck! What a pig! The old work truck at least had 8 feet of useable bed."
Friday I take the Saturn SUV to Costco (200 km drive) cuz I can fit the stuff inside and get 36mpg too. North Vancouver is making them put climate change stickers on all gas pumps with tips to improve your fuel savings. The usual dinosaurs are whining about wasting 'their" tax money on BS they don't wanna see (stickers? must be hundreds and hundreds os dollars)
"xerxes" said And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
I was actually thinking about that yesterday, I made a trip from Slovakia to Italy. Normally I don't do it during the week, because yesterday I estimated I blew by as many as 10,000 tractor trailers, and that is a small trip, only Vienna to Milan, and that is considering between Graz and Udine there is basically nothing but Alps. And that is one guy driving on one day.
Expand that to the rest of Europe, then the West, and the ROW, and the 3rd world trucks with all the extra pollution. Then the industry, from all the coal plants and diesel generators to people burning wood for cooking. And VW, still no fix announced.
"xerxes" said And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
That's because solving the problem will require the end of using all fossil fuels, slamming the brakes on the economies of the developing world, changing the contemporary economy of the developed world into something unrecognizable (that kinda/sorta looks like some hybrid mix of feudalism and communism), and permanently placing about 95% of the world's population into a perpetual pre-industrial state of poverty ruled over by a tiny technocratic elite. Anyone who thinks this mess will be fixed by putting solar panels and windmills everywhere is sadly deluded.
I'll be on the barbie this weekend.
James Cameron can suck my *&^%.
I'll be on the barbie this weekend.
Doing up some steaks tonight, and maybe a rack of ribs
Well, a few weeks ago Mr. Cameron seemed to honor his word.
His representatives contacted myself and two other well known skeptics, Marc Morano of the Climate Depot website and Andrew Breitbart, the new media entrepreneur.
Mr. Cameron was attending the AREDAY environmental conference in Aspen Colorado 19-22 August. He wanted the conference to end with a debate on climate change. Cameron would be flanked with two scientists. It would be 90 minutes long. It would be streamed live on the internet.
They hoped the debate would attract a lot of media coverage.
“We are delighted to have Fox News, Newsmax, The Washington Times and anyone else you’d like. The more the better,” one of James Cameron’s organizers said in an email.
It looked like James Cameron really was a man of his word who would get to take on the skeptics he felt were so endangering humanity.
Everyone on our side agreed with their conditions. The debate was even listed on the AREDAY agenda.
But then as the debate approached James Cameron’s side started changing the rules.
They wanted to change their team. We agreed.
They wanted to change the format to less of a debate—to “a roundtable”. We agreed.
Then they wanted to ban our cameras from the debate. We could have access to their footage. We agreed.
Bizarrely, for a brief while, the worlds most successful film maker suggested that no cameras should be allowed-that sound only should be recorded. We agreed.
Then finally James Cameron, who so publicly announced that he “wanted to call those deniers out into the street at high noon and shoot it out,” decided to ban the media from the shoot out.
He even wanted to ban the public. The debate/roundtable would only be open to those who attended the conference.
No media would be allowed and there would be no streaming on the internet. No one would be allowed to record it in any way.
We all agreed to that.
And then, yesterday, just one day before the debate, his representatives sent an email that Mr. “shoot it out ” Cameron no longer wanted to take part. The debate was cancelled.
From King of the World to Chicken of the Sea: Director James Cameron challenges climate skeptics to debate and then bails out at last minute
Well, a few weeks ago Mr. Cameron seemed to honor his word.
His representatives contacted myself and two other well known skeptics, Marc Morano of the Climate Depot website and Andrew Breitbart, the new media entrepreneur.
Mr. Cameron was attending the AREDAY environmental conference in Aspen Colorado 19-22 August. He wanted the conference to end with a debate on climate change. Cameron would be flanked with two scientists. It would be 90 minutes long. It would be streamed live on the internet.
They hoped the debate would attract a lot of media coverage.
“We are delighted to have Fox News, Newsmax, The Washington Times and anyone else you’d like. The more the better,” one of James Cameron’s organizers said in an email.
It looked like James Cameron really was a man of his word who would get to take on the skeptics he felt were so endangering humanity.
Everyone on our side agreed with their conditions. The debate was even listed on the AREDAY agenda.
But then as the debate approached James Cameron’s side started changing the rules.
They wanted to change their team. We agreed.
They wanted to change the format to less of a debate—to “a roundtable”. We agreed.
Then they wanted to ban our cameras from the debate. We could have access to their footage. We agreed.
Bizarrely, for a brief while, the worlds most successful film maker suggested that no cameras should be allowed-that sound only should be recorded. We agreed.
Then finally James Cameron, who so publicly announced that he “wanted to call those deniers out into the street at high noon and shoot it out,” decided to ban the media from the shoot out.
He even wanted to ban the public. The debate/roundtable would only be open to those who attended the conference.
No media would be allowed and there would be no streaming on the internet. No one would be allowed to record it in any way.
We all agreed to that.
And then, yesterday, just one day before the debate, his representatives sent an email that Mr. “shoot it out ” Cameron no longer wanted to take part. The debate was cancelled.
There's quite likely a logical explanation for his abrupt decision not to participate in a discussion, roundtable, debate with people who can't comprehend his superior intellect, wisdom and vision.
Maybe he got called back to his home planet of Pandora or maybe they just found the Titanic but, either way I'm sure he's got a very good reason for not attending after calling out his lessers and craven cowardice isn't it.
(sarcasm off)
And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
That's not true. We have cleaner air and water than we did 30 years ago when everyone was justly concerned about acid rain and air pollution. Even China is starting to enact serious environmental protections.
Microbeads in soap are being banned because of the damage they do.
And liberals are aborting and birth-controlling themselves into demographic irrelevance and that surely helps by reducing the number of people using private jets and limousines to attend global warming conferences.
And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
Exactly. We live in a "me first" society now and that probably won't change for a generation or two, if it changes at all.
After a lifetime of sensible Honda Civics, Golfs, Caravans and Saturns now I go 'Holy Fuck! What a pig! The old work truck at least had 8 feet of useable bed."
Friday I take the Saturn SUV to Costco (200 km drive) cuz I can fit the stuff inside and get 36mpg too.
North Vancouver is making them put climate change stickers on all gas pumps with tips to improve your fuel savings. The usual dinosaurs are whining about wasting 'their" tax money on BS they don't wanna see (stickers? must be hundreds and hundreds os dollars)
And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
I was actually thinking about that yesterday, I made a trip from Slovakia to Italy.
Normally I don't do it during the week, because yesterday I estimated I blew by
as many as 10,000 tractor trailers, and that is a small trip, only Vienna to Milan,
and that is considering between Graz and Udine there is basically nothing but Alps.
And that is one guy driving on one day.
Expand that to the rest of Europe, then the West, and the ROW, and the 3rd world
trucks with all the extra pollution.
Then the industry, from all the coal plants and diesel generators to people burning wood for cooking.
And VW, still no fix announced.
No one is going to change, better get used to it.
And here's the crux of the problem. To paraphrase an old saying: everyone wants to save the planet, but no is willing to do what it takes.
That's because solving the problem will require the end of using all fossil fuels, slamming the brakes on the economies of the developing world, changing the contemporary economy of the developed world into something unrecognizable (that kinda/sorta looks like some hybrid mix of feudalism and communism), and permanently placing about 95% of the world's population into a perpetual pre-industrial state of poverty ruled over by a tiny technocratic elite. Anyone who thinks this mess will be fixed by putting solar panels and windmills everywhere is sadly deluded.