 Video captures aggressive tactics used by TAVIS officers | Toronto StarLaw & Order | 206569 hits | Oct 27 9:15 am | Posted by: shockedcanadian Commentsview comments in forum Page 1 2 You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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typical bully with a badge. Soon to be pushing papers because of his attitude. How does it feel now huh...punk..
According to the article these two shitheads have little to worry about.
But the people of Toronto do.
Just as he's allowed to tape, they're allowed to engage him in conversation, stand close to him and wave in front of the camera.
No police shouldn't have the right to deliberately block the camera. They are servants of the public and should not be able to legally hide their misdeeds from the public.
Sure they can.
This is about rights, right?
They have a right to stand wherever they please, just as you and I do. They're allowed to wave their hands in front of the camera. They have the right to engage in conversation.
There were no misdeeds here. Two minors were being arrested for drug possession and another cocky guy with a camera, hoping to use the footage to highlight the cops in a negative light got a taste of his own medicine.
We all know this footage wasn't going to be used to highlight the cops doing their job properly.
We all know this footage wasn't going to be used to highlight the cops doing their job properly.
If they're not doing anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about, do they?
And, funny thing, the video ended up showing them to be assholes.
No police shouldn't have the right to deliberately block the camera. They are servants of the public and should not be able to legally hide their misdeeds from the public.
Sure they can.
This is about rights, right?
They have a right to stand wherever they please, just as you and I do. They're allowed to wave their hands in front of the camera. They have the right to engage in conversation.
There were no misdeeds here. Two minors were being arrested for drug possession and another cocky guy with a camera, hoping to use the footage to highlight the cops in a negative light got a taste of his own medicine.
We all know this footage wasn't going to be used to highlight the cops doing their job properly.
So thats the type of world you want to live in? Armed thugs (to lazy to shave) hiding behind badges and sunglasses harassing law abiding citizens. Thats ok with you?
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts ... n-265.html
These cops are guilty of assault under Canadian law. Sec 265 (1) (C) : While openly wearing or carrying a weopon or an imitation thereof, he accosts or impedes another person or begs.
These cops are openly armed. They accost and impede. The whole encounter the photographer is trying to move left or right, The cops continuely impede him, and will not let him pass. They continue to advance on him even after being asked to respect his personal space. You try walking up on a cop like that, and see what happens. They will beat you within an inch of your life, and charge you with numerous felonies. As far as the police being allowed to block the photo being taken:
http://blog.privacylawyer.ca/2012/08/ph ... olice.html
Interfering with someones right to take a photo is "prima facie infringement of ones Charter rights".
You state that the video was going to be used to show the officers in a negative light. I say they look a lot worse now. No one would have cared about a video showing the police lawfully going about their business arresting law breakers. Thats what we pay them to do. We don't pay them to harrass law abiding citizens filming them in the performance of their duties. No we have a viral video because the cops chose to act like thugs. Thats on them.
So thats the type of world you want to live in? Armed thugs (to lazy to shave) hiding behind badges and sunglasses harassing law abiding citizens. Thats ok with you?
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts ... n-265.html
These cops are guilty of assault under Canadian law. Sec 265 (1) (C) : While openly wearing or carrying a weopon or an imitation thereof, he accosts or impedes another person or begs.
These cops are openly armed. They accost and impede. The whole encounter the photographer is trying to move left or right, The cops continuely impede him, and will not let him pass. They continue to advance on him even after being asked to respect his personal space. You try walking up on a cop like that, and see what happens. They will beat you within an inch of your life, and charge you with numerous felonies. As far as the police being allowed to block the photo being taken:
http://blog.privacylawyer.ca/2012/08/ph ... olice.html
Interfering with someones right to take a photo is "prima facie infringement of ones Charter rights".
For someone so concerned with rights, you don't seem too concerned with the rights of the minors being filmed.
I don't see the assault here. Were they being cocky? Sure, just as the camera guy was. You wanna be a cocky prick and then bitch and moan when the tables are turned? Go fuck off.
The guy isn't trying to pass. He's not being impeded. He can leave at any time.
You state that the video was going to be used to show the officers in a negative light. I say they look a lot worse now. No one would have cared about a video showing the police lawfully going about their business arresting law breakers. Thats what we pay them to do. We don't pay them to harrass law abiding citizens filming them in the performance of their duties. No we have a viral video because the cops chose to act like thugs. Thats on them.
Of course that was the intent of the video. Nobody whips out a camera during an arrest to show the fine jobs our cops were doing. They put the video online for 'foamers' like Bart to cream themselves over yet another cop story that he can post on CKA,
Cops who are on duty do not have the same rights as private citizens.
Maybe you should give your phone # out to cops so next time they can call you to come down and act as a screen for them.
Cops who are on duty do not have the same rights as private citizens.
You're getting well beyond your depth here, Beav.
Best to stick with the Trudeau cheer-leading for now.
Because it is public, and makes the police look bad, my guess is something along those lines will happen. Chief's hate being in front of camera's explaining poor behavior of their members. They won't get off free from obstruction I can pretty much guarantee you that much.
For someone so concerned with rights, you don't seem too concerned with the rights of the minors being filmed.
I don't see the assault here. Were they being cocky? Sure, just as the camera guy was. You wanna be a cocky prick and then bitch and moan when the tables are turned? Go fuck off.
The guy isn't trying to pass. He's not being impeded. He can leave at any time.
First things first, the rights of the minors being filmed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_Cri ... ustice_Act
The Youth Criminal Justice Act spells out the protections that minors receive in the criminal justice system very clearly. Check it out. It pertains to their identities, not their likeness. That act pertains to the cops, the courts, the probation department, and the media covering the juvenile trial. The cops can't release the minors name out of spite. The court system can't release their criminal record. The media covering the trial cannot print the minors name in the press. If I as a private citizen would attend the trial, I could not print his name in the media. That why most juvenile trials are closed to the public. Only court members are allowed to attend. The act said nothing about videotaping minors in public. Nothing whatsoever. Everyone has the absolute right to film anything in public that they choose too. They don't need permission, they don't need consent, they don't need to check I.D. for age. If you are in public your picture is fair game. Period!!! These cops pretending like they care about minors rights is total bullshit. These cops are the ones violating the minors rights with stop and card horseshit that totally violates the rights of the minors, anyone else that they are profiling, and the Charter. I bet if we could ask these minors opinions on who they felt was violating their rights more the cops of the photographer, well we don't really need to ask do we?
Are we watching the same video? You don't see the photographer being impeded? I see him try to move left only to be blocked. I see him trying to move right only to be blocked. We have a cop bragging about hie "moves" and you don't think that he is being impeded? My vision aint what it used to be. I do wear trifocals these days. Mabey we should put it up to a vote.
Why do you feel the photographer was being cocky? He was just standing there filming. He was not taunting the police. I did not hear him say a thing to the cops until he was approached (accosted) by them. There are a lot of vids online where the photographer is taunting the cops and acting like assholes. This was not one of them.
You state that the video was going to be used to show the officers in a negative light. I say they look a lot worse now. No one would have cared about a video showing the police lawfully going about their business arresting law breakers. Thats what we pay them to do. We don't pay them to harrass law abiding citizens filming them in the performance of their duties. No we have a viral video because the cops chose to act like thugs. Thats on them.
Of course that was the intent of the video. Nobody whips out a camera during an arrest to show the fine jobs our cops were doing. They put the video online for 'foamers' like Bart to cream themselves over yet another cop story that he can post on CKA,
There are whole industries of videos showing the cops in a good light. Cops, Americas most wanted, Bluelights, Boston's finest, Cajun justice, S.W.A.T , Alaska State Troopers, Wildest police chases, etc. etc. The good spin video for police far outnumbers the bad spin videos. I admit I like watching these shows. I enjoy seeing stupid people who think that laws do not apply to them go to jail. I never find myself rooting for the"bad guy" in these shows. Police have a hard and dangerous job. I am not against the police. I am against bad cops who abuse their authority. Why couldn't these cops just do their job and ignore the photographer? If they had, we would not be having this discussion now. I would have watched the video for maybe 30 seconds before moving on. There was no need to approach and harass the photographer. The cops made themselves look like jerks. Action should be taken against them. These cops do not portray the Toronto police department in a positive light. They bring discredit to the force.
Edited to state that I totally screwed up on the quote functions in this post. For that I apologize,
Cops who are on duty do not have the same rights as private citizens.
You're getting well beyond your depth here, Beav.
Best to stick with the Trudeau cheer-leading for now.
So having run out of arguments, you're relying solely on insults now?