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Intelligent people's brains wired differently to those with fewer intellectual abilities, says study


Science | 208207 hits | Sep 29 12:26 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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The brains of high-achieving individuals are wired up differently to those of people with fewer intellectual or social abilities according to one of the first studies to find a physical link between what goes in the brain and a person’s overall lifestyle.

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  1. by avatar ccga3359
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:29 pm
    Squirrel.

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:08 pm
    This is one of those "Captain Obvious" kind of things.

    Edit: And one thing we will absolutely never hear from this study is the breakdown of these cognitive indicators by ethnicity. :idea:

  3. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:48 pm
    "BartSimpson" said


    Edit: And one thing we will absolutely never hear from this study is the breakdown of these cognitive indicators by ethnicity. :idea:


    Wanna piss the right people off?

    Here's something I saw the other day, but I think the research goes back to 2010.

    Muslim Inbreeding Has Corrupted Islam’s Psyche – And The Results Are Alarming!

  4. by avatar PluggyRug
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:07 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said


    Edit: And one thing we will absolutely never hear from this study is the breakdown of these cognitive indicators by ethnicity. :idea:


    Wanna piss the right people off?

    Here's something I saw the other day, but I think the research goes back to 2010.

    Muslim Inbreeding Has Corrupted Islam’s Psyche – And The Results Are Alarming!


    Something like this....

  5. by avatar desertdude
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:40 pm
    Next there should be a study on how racists and bigots have their brains wired ( lotta empty space there I'm betting ) Plenty of test subjects on this forum or even just this thread, couldn't even resist turning a thread on a science topic into a platform to spout their bigoted diarrhea.

  6. by avatar Robair
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:49 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said


    Edit: And one thing we will absolutely never hear from this study is the breakdown of these cognitive indicators by ethnicity. :idea:


    Wanna piss the right people off?

    Here's something I saw the other day, but I think the research goes back to 2010.

    Muslim Inbreeding Has Corrupted Islam’s Psyche – And The Results Are Alarming!
    Yikes, not exactly P.C.

    But makes sense.

  7. by avatar Winnipegger
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:36 pm
    I would like to see DNA analysis of burial remains. Some skulls in Peru have deformed skulls. Most think this is the result of body modification, wrapping a baby's head while it is soft and pliable. The culture believed a deformed head denoted high status, a member of the ruling class. Mongols also practiced this. I suspect this was to look like something they say in the past, some leader who was born with a deformed head. Why? Recent DNA analysis show we are mixture of ancient modern human with Neanderthal. Polynesian and Australian Aborigine also have some Denisovan. Did some individuals thousands of years ago have more Neanderthal than today, causing a hybrid skill partially Neanderthal in shape? Or just a random mutation? Did that head shape become fashionable because those individuals rose to high status in their society?

    Hmm. Did a quick google, found this:
    Initial DNA analysis of Paracas elongated skull released – with incredible results
    It is well-known that most cases of skull elongation are the result of cranial deformation, head flattening, or head binding, in which the skull is intentionally deformed by applying force over a long period of time. It is usually achieved by binding the head between two pieces of wood, or binding in cloth. However, while cranial deformation changes the shape of the skull, it does not alter its volume, weight, or other features that are characteristic of a regular human skull.

    The Paracas skulls, however, are different. The cranial volume is up to 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than conventional human skulls, meaning they could not have been intentionally deformed through head binding/flattening. They also contain only one parietal plate, rather than two.
    ...
    It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans.


    Neanderthal skulls have a prominent brow ridge, providing extra protection from being kicked in the face by the hoof of an animal. And many Neanderthal skeletons show multiple breaks, including skulls. Hunting large game with a spear is dangerous. One major prey of theirs was aurox, the wild animal from which we got cattle. Its horns were as big as Texas long-horn. But their skull volume was just as large as ours. In fact the occipital lobe had a "bun": enlarged area at the back of the head. That implies greater visual acuity.

    I also found Wikipedia says this about brain size
    From early primates to hominids and finally to Homo sapiens, the brain has grown. ... The increase in brain size stopped with neanderthals. Since then, the average brain size has been shrinking over the past 28,000 years. The cranial capacity has decreased from around 1,550 cm³ to around 1,440 cm³ in males while the female cranial capacity has shrunk from around 1,500 cm³ to around 1,240 cm³.

    Does that mean as society has grown from small family groups to large cities, there is evolutionary pressure for average individuals to become dumber? Just as wolves evolved into dogs, becoming more docile and dependant on their master, are we becoming docile and dependant on society?

  8. by avatar herbie
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:44 pm

    Muslim Inbreeding Has Corrupted Islam’s Psyche – And The Results Are Alarming!

    Oh JESUS!!! What are you gonna post next an online Der Sturmer? And I suppose you believe it because 'it's on the Internet'... brains wired different? Check your fucking polarity then the wiring, something's fucking shorted out.

  9. by avatar BRAH
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:53 pm
    "desertdude" said
    Next there should be a study on how racists and bigots have their brains wired ( lotta empty space there I'm betting ) Plenty of test subjects on this forum or even just this thread, couldn't even resist turning a thread on a science topic into a platform to spout their bigoted diarrhea.

    Like your Anti-Semitism diarrhea? :lol:

  10. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:40 pm
    So I'm right again then. That article would "piss off the right people". :wink:

    Now that I've got them interested, but not interested enough to click the link and have a clue what they're talking about I'm going to make them learn.

    Cause it's fun.

    Here's the credentials of the psychologist they were interviewing at the link.

    Danish Psychologist Nicolai Sennels Has Spent Years Interviewing Muslims And Shares His Conclusions

    By Col. Tom Snodgrass (Ret.), Right Side News

    Ride Side News had the the privilege of holding an e-mail correspondence interview with Nicolai Sennels, a Danish psychologist who has worked in his government’s in-prison psychology programs to determine why so many juveniles from the Muslim immigrant community populate the Danish penal system. In the course of his research he investigated Muslim inbreeding and its effects on “Islam’s psyche”, and he gained tremendous insight into the “mind of Islam” through thousands of face-to-face dialogues with disaffected Muslims. Here are his conclusions.

    The Interview

    RSN: First Nicolai, would you acquaint the readers with your background, and how you have come by expertise on the Muslim mind.

    Nicolai (born 1976): I am a licensed psychologist. My first appearances in the Danish media concerned my somewhat unorthodox therapy methods that I developed as the only psychologist at Sønderbro, a Copenhagen youth prison (see here and here). I taught the young prisoners about mindfulness meditation and developed a special program on anger management. I also developed a psychotherapeutic method that focused on teaching criminals with a low understanding of emotions and empathy how to take responsibility for their own behavior. In 2008, the prisoners of Sønderbro voted the facility as the best prison in Denmark. The leader of Social Services in the Copenhagen municipality concluded that this was due to my work.



    At a conference on immigrant crime in 2008, arranged by the Copenhagen municipality, I said that one should not use the term “criminal immigrants,” but “criminal Muslims,” since the majority of criminal immigrants have Muslim background. Seven out of ten inmates in the Danish youth prisons have immigrant backgrounds, and almost all of them are Muslims. I was threatened that if I were to discuss my experiences again, I would get fired from my job. This story developed into a national debate on the freedom of speech and became a widely discussed topic in the Danish media, and the even Minister of Integration joined the discussion.



    I decided to publish a book on my experiences, “Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist’s Experiences from the Copenhagen Municipality”, which was well received in both the official Psychologists Union’s magazine and the newspapers. I found myself a new job at the Danish Ministry of Defense, and now once again I now work as a psychologist with children and teenagers.



    I consulted on the case against Omar Khadr, a convicted terrorist serving in Guantanamo. I also contributed a chapter to the Dutch book Islam: Critical Essays on a Political Religion, along with Raymond Ibrahim, Hans Jansen, Michael Mannheimer, Ibn Warraq, Bat Ye’or and other renowned critics of Islam and Muslim immigration. Besides this I wrote a long list of articles on the psychology of Islam, Islam’s view on women, on Muslim culture and the wide spread inbreeding in Muslim society.



    There's more at the Link I'll post later if I get more "You Suck = Shut up. Nobody's allowed to know that stuff you're quoting".

    It's interesting the doctor, worked on the Omar Khadr case though.

  11. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:56 pm
    So, the hope is that the more cognitively advanced represent the future of our species and that eventually, the "base line" will be on a higher plane.

    Unfortunately, Darwinian evolution may not be our hope for those improvements, as the dim, very dim and "nobody home" lights out stupid reproduce like marmots and the very smart have few (and often no) offspring.

  12. by avatar fifeboy
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:00 pm
    Inbreeding amongst 1.6 billion people?

  13. by avatar fifeboy
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:14 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    So, the hope is that the more cognitively advanced represent the future of our species and that eventually, the "base line" will be on a higher plane.

    Unfortunately, Darwinian evolution may not be our hope for those improvements, as the dim, very dim and "nobody home" lights out stupid reproduce like marmots and the very smart have few (and often no) offspring.

    Actually, considering they are rodents, marmots have a fairly low reproductive rate.

  14. by avatar andyt
    Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:54 pm
    "fifeboy" said
    Inbreeding amongst 1.6 billion people?


    Shush, you'll only confuse the differently wired above.



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