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Canada says it, not Kahnawake, gets to decide on band membership issues


lifestyle | 207004 hits | Jul 07 12:58 pm | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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Who is a Mohawk? The answer could set the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake on a collision course with the federal government.

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  1. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:29 pm
    Hilarious. You folks get to deal with a special protected group that's intent on carrying out an ethnic cleansing policy on their highly exclusive lands where they openly practice racial discrimination with the general approval of the left and the government.

    Yet the Serbs were wrong for doing the same thing.


  2. by avatar uwish
    Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:13 pm
    IMHO we should have let the tanks roll into that place and been done with this shit 20 years ago....

  3. by avatar QBall
    Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:01 pm
    “My genuine fear is that … I could meet a white girl and end up off (Kahnawake’s) list,” said Christopher Fragnito, a Kahnawake Mohawk and one of the plaintiffs.


    So if he marries a black girl or a latina he gets to stay?

  4. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:30 pm
    "QBall" said
    “My genuine fear is that … I could meet a white girl and end up off (Kahnawake’s) list,” said Christopher Fragnito, a Kahnawake Mohawk and one of the plaintiffs.


    So if he marries a black girl or a latina he gets to stay?


    I'm guessing he already has a European girl in mind. :idea:

  5. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:29 am
    It's time the Fed's finally grew a pair WRT the natives and their outrageous racial cleansing policies. If the Fed's cave on this one it's carte blanche for any other bands to implement policies that are in direct contravention of this Countries Charter or Rights and Freedoms, a document that strangely enough the Natives use for their own advantage and dismiss when it doesn't suit their agendas.

    Come to think of it this band is nothing but a Gov't funded group of racists something that would be illegal and shit on immediately if it was anyone but these extremely special people.

    Maybe groups like the Klan should be applying for Gov't funds since there doesn't seem to be a standard when it comes to giving money to blatant racists. ROTFL

  6. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:32 am
    This doesn't solve much, since the non-abo partners would not be on the band list. Ie the band may not be able to remove status for aboriginals, but their non-abo partners can't be made band members by the govt, afaik.

  7. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:37 am
    "andyt" said
    This doesn't solve much, since the non-abo partners would not be on the band list. Ie the band may not be able to remove status for aboriginals, but their non-abo partners can't be made band members by the govt, afaik.


    You're right but I don't think that's the issue here. Nobody expects non natives married to natives to be given status but by the same token nobody expects in Canada to be denied the right to live with your spouse on their reserve because he or she is not a Mohawk.

  8. by Thanos
    Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:40 am
    Seems like they took what was originally an entirely sensible anti-squatter policy and turned it into some kind of ethnic cleansing opportunity. Other reserves have done this too. The Tsuu Tina's here outside of Calgary inherited the base housing when the Chretien Liberals shut down CFB Calgary. The band council had to do something similar to what the Mohawks are doing when the housing got filled up with street people from downtown and other Natives that weren't Tsuu Tina's. They didn't go as far as evicting married couples but they didn't take any crap from the interlopers either.

  9. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:41 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    This doesn't solve much, since the non-abo partners would not be on the band list. Ie the band may not be able to remove status for aboriginals, but their non-abo partners can't be made band members by the govt, afaik.


    You're right but I don't think that's the issue here. Nobody expects non natives married to natives to be given status but by the same token nobody expects in Canada to be denied the right to live with your spouse on their reserve because he or she is not a Mohawk.

    Well the question still is if they can kick out the non-abo partner, and I'm not at all sure the govt has anything to say there.

  10. by avatar herbie
    Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:56 am
    How nice of the feds. They did such a good job in the past defining who has status and who doesn't.
    Could end up a total abortion...

  11. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:31 am
    "andyt" said
    This doesn't solve much, since the non-abo partners would not be on the band list. Ie the band may not be able to remove status for aboriginals, but their non-abo partners can't be made band members by the govt, afaik.


    You're right but I don't think that's the issue here. Nobody expects non natives married to natives to be given status but by the same token nobody expects in Canada to be denied the right to live with your spouse on their reserve because he or she is not a Mohawk.

    Well the question still is if they can kick out the non-abo partner, and I'm not at all sure the govt has anything to say there.


    Once again a document drafted by lawyers for lawyers has led to a major fuck up with regards to personal rights and the Charter.


    Main article: Aboriginal self-government in Canada

    The question of how the Charter applies to Aboriginals and Aboriginal government has involved section 25. On the one hand, it has been argued that Aboriginal governments are not bound by the Charter. If section 35 includes a right to self-government, and section 25 ensures Aboriginal rights are not limited by the Charter, then section 25 would also guarantee that self-government is not limited by the Charter. On the other hand, the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples once argued that while section 25 guarantees the existence of self-government itself, the powers of such Aboriginal governments will be limited to respect the Charter rights of individual Aboriginals.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_T ... d_Freedoms

    With mentally deficient laws like these why am I not surprised that the Natives are doing whatever the fuck they want, with impunity. :roll:



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