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Yukon government appeals 'hands-free' cellphone

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Yukon government appeals 'hands-free' cellphone ruling


Law & Order | 206928 hits | Apr 17 10:18 am | Posted by: Regina
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A Yukon government lawyer was in court this week arguing the meaning of "'hands-free," in the territory's appeal of a recent decision to toss a ticket given to a man who was using his cellphone while driving.

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  1. by Regina  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:24 pm
    Although I think having it wedged between your chin and shoulder is still a distraction, the speaker phone mode works the same as some hands free systems. I prefer ear buds to anything but it does raise a huge point. So what's the difference?

  2. by avatar Brenda
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:30 pm
    I agree, R. Just because you are not holding it in your hand, it is still tilting your head. Why not put it in your lap on speaker? I usually hold it in my hand on speaker away from my head, until I am parked.
    If you are on the phone a lot, why not get an ear piece?

  3. by Thanos
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:31 pm
    I'd suggest that the clown with the phone wedged in his ear causing his head to tilt at an odd angle is significantly more dangerous a driver than the one with his eyes straight forward who's holding the phone with his hand. I suppose that I shouldn't get shocked at any idiotic decision coming out of a courtroom these days but one that says the ear-wedging trick counts as 'hands free' has to be considered as considerably more moronic a decision than most. Next up, a texter who caused a major accident while driving gets off because technically texting isn't the exact same thing as a phone call and therefore doesn't fall under any distracted driving legislation. :roll:

  4. by Regina  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:43 pm
    I always expected to see fastening device on Dragon's Den that would hold a smart phone to the centre of a steering wheel so you could easily use the speaker phone. It's hands free and it's proximity to your hands is similar to built in systems on newer cars.

  5. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:48 pm
    Hmm. Not that I use my phone when I drive but I'll have to remember this when I'm up to Yukon next month and pay attention to the idiots who drive like they're having a neck spasm.

  6. by avatar DrCaleb
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:04 pm
    "Regina" said
    I always expected to see fastening device on Dragon's Den that would hold a smart phone to the centre of a steering wheel so you could easily use the speaker phone. It's hands free and it's proximity to your hands is similar to built in systems on newer cars.


    Mmmm, no. If your airbag goes off, that will leave a mark!

  7. by Regina  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:09 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    I always expected to see fastening device on Dragon's Den that would hold a smart phone to the centre of a steering wheel so you could easily use the speaker phone. It's hands free and it's proximity to your hands is similar to built in systems on newer cars.


    Mmmm, no. If your airbag goes off, that will leave a mark!
    :lol: There you go!!!

  8. by avatar Brenda
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:19 pm
    Because the airbag itself doesn't? :lol:

  9. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:23 pm
    He'd still have to use his hands to put the phone on his shoulder, adjust it if/when it slips loose, and to dial, answer and hang up, the latter 3 also requiring him to take his eyes off the road. He should get the ticket.

  10. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:25 pm
    "Thanos" said
    I'd suggest that the clown with the phone wedged in his ear causing his head to tilt at an odd angle is significantly more dangerous a driver than the one with his eyes straight forward who's holding the phone with his hand. I suppose that I shouldn't get shocked at any idiotic decision coming out of a courtroom these days but one that says the ear-wedging trick counts as 'hands free' has to be considered as considerably more moronic a decision than most. Next up, a texter who caused a major accident while driving gets off because technically texting isn't the exact same thing as a phone call and therefore doesn't fall under any distracted driving legislation. :roll:


    Or he was sending selfie photos and Emojis, which technically aren't "text".

  11. by Regina  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:28 pm
    "BeaverFever" said
    He'd still have to use his hands to put the phone on his shoulder, adjust it if/when it slips loose, and to dial, answer and hang up, the latter 3 also requiring him to take his eyes off the road. He should get the ticket.

    In this case I agree. Wedged between his shoulder and head makes no difference than if he was not on speaker phone.
    Pay the fine and quit wasting everyone's time.

  12. by avatar raydan
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:49 pm
    How did the phone get from wherever it was when it rang to "wedged between his shoulder and head" without using his hands?

  13. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:04 pm
    "raydan" said
    How did the phone get from wherever it was when it rang to "wedged between his shoulder and head" without using his hands?


    It was a very complex yoga move called "Working the system".

  14. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:34 pm
    I've been up and down the Klondike highway a couple of time in each directions and there isn't much danger of hitting another vehicle.



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