A Canadian soldier was killed Friday in Iraq in what the defence department described as a friendly fire incident when members of a special operations team were "mistakenly engaged" by Iraqi Kurdish forces while returning to an observation post behin
What a shame. These guys are probably our best soldiers. We may be fighting an ongoing insergency war like this for many decades and we mustn't forget our service people in these lonely, evil corners of the World.
“During fighting the Canadian advisers left their vehicle and walked to the area,” he told Basnews.
“They got very close to the fighting without our co-ordination and when the Peshmerga saw them, they asked who they were. The Canadians answered in Arabic, leading the Peshmerga to believe they were IS militants, and shot them.”
Gardi said if it wasn’t for the Canadians’ local driver they would have all been killed. He told the Peshmerga that they were Canadian advisers and not ISIL gunmen, he added.
The minister said the Canadian troops were not involved in any engagement with ISIL during, or close to, the incident.
“This has nothing to do with accompaniment or combat. The Canadian troops were behind the forward line of our troops. They were not at what we would describe as the front.”
“It’s a tragic incident, at nighttime, of friendly fire. Regrettably, such incidents occur in all military deployments. It’s part of the inherent risk, unfortunately.”
Unfortunately it happens and since it was the Kurds I'd say it was an actual friendly fire incident and not some disgruntled woglodyte taking out his frustrations on the people trying to help him.
A Canadian special forces soldier was killed in a "friendly fire incident" after he and others ignored an order to stay in their car and showed up to the front line unannounced, a spokesman for Iraq's Kurdish forces said Sunday.
First the guy dying in the avalanche not using common sense, now this guy. Too gung ho, not enough brains.
Peshmerga spokesman Halgurd Hekmat said a group of Canadian soldiers showed up unannounced Friday to the village of Bashiq, in Iraq's Nineveh province near the militant-held city of Mosul. The area had seen heavy fighting against ISIS militants the previous day. "When they returned, the peshmerga asked them to identify themselves," Hekmat told The Associated Press. "They answered in Arabic, that's when peshmerga started shooting."
Hekmat added that he doesn't know why the Canadians were there. "I consider it an improper action by the Canadians and illogical," he said.
I don't care if our guys go to the front lines, I don't care if they do actual fighting. (Based on the assumption that they are there totally on their own free will, no claiming later it was their duty to go). I don't care as long as it doesn't keep dragging more and more of our troops into the mess.
First the guy dying in the avalanche not using common sense, now this guy. Too gung ho, not enough brains.
Haven't you ever done any risky things in your life?
No?
One of the essences of life (male life, anyway) is pushing the envelope, a bit. It makes life taste a little better. It needn't be logical but it is deeply biological.
Sure I have. And if it went south I would have been called on it, not eulogized as a hero. Remember what Patton said. The facts in this case aren't that clear. Who knows, maybe the Peshmerga are just covering their ass. The the SAR who die in that avalanche, that was just totally unecessary. I would give any other climber grief for what he did. Just because he was on a "training mission" doesn't excuse it.
"andyt" said Sure sure. Ordinary citizen dies taking unnecessary risks he's up for a Darwin award. Soldier does same, he's up for medal.
And you make stupid judgements without knowing any of the facts in any case concerning the military. I get it, military guys scare you, so they must all be no-brain assholes.
You can go fuck yourself andy, the idea that I served this country for so long defending pieces of shit that think like you makes me sick.
Lest we forget.
-J.
“They got very close to the fighting without our co-ordination and when the Peshmerga saw them, they asked who they were. The Canadians answered in Arabic, leading the Peshmerga to believe they were IS militants, and shot them.”
Gardi said if it wasn’t for the Canadians’ local driver they would have all been killed. He told the Peshmerga that they were Canadian advisers and not ISIL gunmen, he added.
What a total fucking waste!
R.I.P. Sgt. Andrew Doiron
“This has nothing to do with accompaniment or combat. The Canadian troops were behind the forward line of our troops. They were not at what we would describe as the front.”
“It’s a tragic incident, at nighttime, of friendly fire. Regrettably, such incidents occur in all military deployments. It’s part of the inherent risk, unfortunately.”
Looks like the spin is on.
Unfortunately it happens and since it was the Kurds I'd say it was an actual friendly fire incident and not some disgruntled woglodyte taking out his frustrations on the people trying to help him.
First the guy dying in the avalanche not using common sense, now this guy. Too gung ho, not enough brains.
Hekmat added that he doesn't know why the Canadians were there. "I consider it an improper action by the Canadians and illogical," he said.
I don't care if our guys go to the front lines, I don't care if they do actual fighting. (Based on the assumption that they are there totally on their own free will, no claiming later it was their duty to go). I don't care as long as it doesn't keep dragging more and more of our troops into the mess.
Haven't you ever done any risky things in your life?
No?
One of the essences of life (male life, anyway) is pushing the envelope, a bit. It makes life taste a little better. It needn't be logical but it is deeply biological.
Sure sure. Ordinary citizen dies taking unnecessary risks he's up for a Darwin award. Soldier does same, he's up for medal.
And you make stupid judgements without knowing any of the facts in any case concerning the military. I get it, military guys scare you, so they must all be no-brain assholes.
You can go fuck yourself andy, the idea that I served this country for so long defending pieces of shit that think like you makes me sick.