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Ottawa revoking passports of Canadians who join

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Ottawa revoking passports of Canadians who join extremist groups


Misc CDN | 206810 hits | Sep 20 10:20 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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Canadians who travel overseas to join extremist groups can expect to have their passports revoked, the government is warning.

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  1. by avatar martin14
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:05 am
    "grainfedprairieboy" said


    Buried in the story is a comment on how Ottawa might also take away the citizenship of dual citizens caught in terrorist acts. Why we allow anyone to be a dual citizen in the first place is beyond me.



    Cuz we all 'cultural mosaic' and 'multicultural' and 'accommodating'.


    Otherwise this is good news.

  2. by avatar Newsbot
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:12 am
    Ottawa revoking passports of Canadians who join extremist groups
    Misc CDN
    Posted By:
    2014-09-20 22:20:09

  3. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:12 am
    But wait, wasn't somebody here claiming this could not happen?

    That you could not prevent Canadian citizens from returning to Canada.

  4. by avatar Delwin
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:24 am
    What you think they have actually composed a law that can withstand a legal challenge ? All of their laws are written in sand just waiting for the tide to turn.

  5. by avatar andyt
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:27 am
    You can't prevent citizens from returning, it's in our constitution. All revoking the passport does is make it harder for them to travel, not something they seem concerned about since some of them publicly burned their passport. You don't need a passport to enter Canada as a citizen, you just may be detained while they check out if you are indeed a citizen. Should make it harder for these guys to come back under the radar.

  6. by avatar martin14
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:34 am
    "andyt" said
    You can't prevent citizens from returning, it's in our constitution. All revoking the passport does is make it harder for them to travel, not something they seem concerned about since some of them publicly burned their passport. You don't need a passport to enter Canada as a citizen, you just may be detained while they check out if you are indeed a citizen. Should make it harder for these guys to come back under the radar.


    Can't get on a plane without a passport.

    They would need to go an embassy first, and then the investigations can begin,
    while they are still outside.


    “And it will ensure that the good name of Canada, which is associated with this passport, is not associated with the menace of terrorism.”


    Having a Canadian passport used to be the best thing in the world.

    Now it's a bit of a joke.

  7. by avatar Delwin
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:46 am
    Sounds like a good strategy, it forces those whom are involved in terrorism to consider not attempting to come back at all since they won't know what info is held on them. It also could hamper our ability to apprehend some of the more dangerous ones by keeping them out. Overall it puts the safety of Canadians first and makes apprehension a second priority.

  8. by avatar andyt
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:52 pm
    "martin14" said

    Can't get on a plane without a passport.

    They would need to go an embassy first, and then the investigations can begin,
    while they are still outside.




    Exactly. I have no problem with it, as long as they have some solid evidence to proceed on. Which means the investigation would have had to begin when the passport was cancelled, not when the person shows up at the embassy. And then still, the govt will have to grant temporary travel papers, and the person still comes home. It doesn't actually solve anything. They would still need to be watched closely when they come home.

  9. by avatar martin14
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:20 pm
    "andyt" said

    Can't get on a plane without a passport.

    They would need to go an embassy first, and then the investigations can begin,
    while they are still outside.




    Exactly. I have no problem with it, as long as they have some solid evidence to proceed on. Which means the investigation would have had to begin when the passport was cancelled, not when the person shows up at the embassy. And then still, the govt will have to grant temporary travel papers, and the person still comes home. It doesn't actually solve anything. They would still need to be watched closely when they come home.


    No, there is the second part, moving to strip citizenship.

    Hopefully there is a way to fast track that.

  10. by avatar andyt
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:58 pm
    Only applies to those with dual citizenship. Wonder what the Supremes will have to say about that one.

  11. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:34 pm
    "andyt" said
    Only applies to those with dual citizenship. Wonder what the Supremes will have to say about that one.


    Given the hard on they've had for Harper and the Conservatives lately It'd be my guess that they wouldn't be sympathetic to any law the Conservatives brought before them no matter what it was, which brings up the question. Who really runs this country? The duly elected Government or an appointed judiciary staffed by lawyers. 8O

    But here's a thought. Why doesn't the Gov't make all these countries where these animals are going to "scheduled" countries then, if they go to them they're automatically breaking the law and subject to arrest upon arrival back in Canada.

  12. by avatar andyt
    Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:50 pm
    You mean the Harper majority on the court won't dance to his tune but actually follows the law? The bastards.

    For your last thought, I don't know. Is that possible? Does that mean all those journalists and aid workers who keep getting kidnapped would no longer be allowed to go? I can hear the outcry about that. I didn't know we had such a deal, thought it was just the US with its idiotic stance on Cuba. And even there, how does the govt know these animals went there? doubt they get entry stamps on their passports. From their passport it probably looks like they went to Turkey or Jordan or something.

  13. by avatar fifeboy
    Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:25 am
    "andyt" said
    Only applies to those with dual citizenship. Wonder what the Supremes will have to say about that one.


    I don't know: Lets ask 'em!




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