"xerxes" said And mine is with the concept of justice; because this isn't it.
Wood and his 29-year-old ex-girlfriend, Debbie Dietz, had been involved in a turbulent relationship for 5 years, which had been marred by numerous breakups and several domestic violent incidents. Debbie was working at a local body shop owned by her family.
On August 7, 1989, Wood walked into the shop and shot Gene Dietz, age 55, in the chest with a .38 caliber revolver, killing him. Gene Dietz's 70-year-old brother was present and tried to stop Wood, but Wood pushed him away and proceeded into another section of the body shop.
Wood went up to Debbie, placed her in some type of hold, and shot her once in the abdomen and once in the chest, killing her.
Wood then fled the building. Two police officers approached Wood and ordered him to drop his weapon. After Wood placed the weapon on the ground, he reached down and picked it up, and pointed it at the officers. The officers fired, striking Wood several times. Wood was transported to a local hospital where he underwent extensive surgery.
You're right, would have been much better to just shoot him in the head.
"xerxes" said And mine is with the concept of justice; because this isn't it.
Sure it is. Why should the family of the victims be forced to pay for his crime by helping pay for his food, clothing and roof over his head for the rest of his life? There was absolutely zero doubt of his guilt. The punishment fit the crime.
To hell with him indeed. They really should bring back the firing squad or the noose though if they feel the need to do these things. Lethal injection, the gas chamber, and the electric chair are just too much of a horror show. Except for maybe about 10 to 15 seconds twitching even the guillotine is better. Not that I want to give the fucks in Russia any credit for anything but a simple pistol shot to the back of the neck would be more humane than what too many US states are using.
Two hours to execute a man? Somehow I don't think that will pass muster when this case goes to court on a violation of the eight Amendment. Something like this (and that last botched execution) could conceivably put an end to execution by lethal injection in the states.
"xerxes" said I guess I must be the only person here who is against the death penalty.
Nope. I don't agree with it either, but it is the law in some states. If it must be carried out, it should be as quick and painless as possible. I also think that people convicted of life/no parole should have an assisted suicide option. But, I'm strange and that shouldn't be a big surprise.
"DrCaleb" said I guess I must be the only person here who is against the death penalty.
Nope. I don't agree with it either, but it is the law in some states. If it must be carried out, it should be as quick and painless as possible. I also think that people convicted of life/no parole should have an assisted suicide option. But, I'm strange and that shouldn't be a big surprise.
I agree with all this. No point rehashing the death penalty debate, some people just don't care about the innocent that will inevitably be executed alongside the guilty. But if you're going to kill people, do it quickly and humanely. Why is it we can put dogs to sleep with no fuss, but can't manage the same deal with humans?
"andyt" said Why is it we can put dogs to sleep with no fuss, but can't manage the same deal with humans?
I think the problem is mass. It's easy to give small dogs an anaesthesia overdose, but somewhat harder for people because the overdose depends on body mass. And not everyone responds to it the same way, so it's somewhat random what dose will kill a person.
Stronger drugs are more reliable, but drug companies are withholding those drugs on moral grounds in opposition to the death penalty.
"PublicAnimalNo9" said And mine is with the concept of justice; because this isn't it.
Sure it is. Why should the family of the victims be forced to pay for his crime by helping pay for his food, clothing and roof over his head for the rest of his life? There was absolutely zero doubt of his guilt. The punishment fit the crime. I will waste no emotion on the executed murderer, but while the public no longer has to pay to feed and house the convicted, we did have to pay likely seven figures for his post-sentencing appeals.
I'm not willing to remove the criminal appeals process from the American judicial system, so I'll settle for life without parole.
And mine is with the concept of justice; because this isn't it.
On August 7, 1989, Wood walked into the shop and shot Gene Dietz, age 55, in the chest with a .38 caliber revolver, killing him. Gene Dietz's 70-year-old brother was present and tried to stop Wood, but Wood pushed him away and proceeded into another section of the body shop.
Wood went up to Debbie, placed her in some type of hold, and shot her once in the abdomen and once in the chest, killing her.
Wood then fled the building. Two police officers approached Wood and ordered him to drop his weapon. After Wood placed the weapon on the ground, he reached down and picked it up, and pointed it at the officers. The officers fired, striking Wood several times. Wood was transported to a local hospital where he underwent extensive surgery.
You're right, would have been much better to just shoot him in the head.
And mine is with the concept of justice; because this isn't it.
Sure it is. Why should the family of the victims be forced to pay for his crime by helping pay for his food, clothing and roof over his head for the rest of his life?
There was absolutely zero doubt of his guilt. The punishment fit the crime.
I guess I must be the only person here who is against the death penalty.
Nope. I don't agree with it either, but it is the law in some states. If it must be carried out, it should be as quick and painless as possible. I also think that people convicted of life/no parole should have an assisted suicide option. But, I'm strange and that shouldn't be a big surprise.
I guess I must be the only person here who is against the death penalty.
Nope. I don't agree with it either, but it is the law in some states. If it must be carried out, it should be as quick and painless as possible. I also think that people convicted of life/no parole should have an assisted suicide option. But, I'm strange and that shouldn't be a big surprise.
I agree with all this. No point rehashing the death penalty debate, some people just don't care about the innocent that will inevitably be executed alongside the guilty. But if you're going to kill people, do it quickly and humanely. Why is it we can put dogs to sleep with no fuss, but can't manage the same deal with humans?
Why is it we can put dogs to sleep with no fuss, but can't manage the same deal with humans?
I think the problem is mass. It's easy to give small dogs an anaesthesia overdose, but somewhat harder for people because the overdose depends on body mass. And not everyone responds to it the same way, so it's somewhat random what dose will kill a person.
Stronger drugs are more reliable, but drug companies are withholding those drugs on moral grounds in opposition to the death penalty.
I guess I must be the only person here who is against the death penalty.
Nope, I don't agree with it either. But then there are a lot of things the Americans do that I don't care for.
And mine is with the concept of justice; because this isn't it.
Sure it is. Why should the family of the victims be forced to pay for his crime by helping pay for his food, clothing and roof over his head for the rest of his life?
There was absolutely zero doubt of his guilt. The punishment fit the crime.
I will waste no emotion on the executed murderer, but while the public no longer has to pay to feed and house the convicted, we did have to pay likely seven figures for his post-sentencing appeals.
I'm not willing to remove the criminal appeals process from the American judicial system, so I'll settle for life without parole.