"martin14" said You would think Obongo should show up for this.
But, nope.
C'mon though you've gotta know that the world's greatest narcissist is going to inject himself into remembrance of a historical event somehow.
"Washington DC talk show host Chris Plante reported today that Barack Obama omitted the words "under God" from the Gettysburg Address when reciting the great speech for a Ken Burns documentary.
Burns had filmed all living presidents as well as various Hollywood personalities and luminaries to pay homage to the speech which was delivered by Abraham Lincoln 150 years ago, today.
Plante broke the story on Washington DC talk radio station WMAL on his mid-morning program, "The Chris Plante Show."
WMAL reports:
Curiously enough, in his version of the speech, President Barack Obama's delivery contained an omission - in a line that every other celebrity delivered as "that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom," the President left out the words "under God."
Four score and seven years ago, a group of exclusively white, privileged, Native-American-killing and often slave-owning land-owners brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in antiquated notions of liberty but what we now know ought to have been the Common Good, and dedicated to the proposition that all men, women, transgendered and hermaphroditic persons are entitled to equal things.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, actually deserves to endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. I have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation, fatally flawed though it may be, might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that I should do this.
But, in a larger sense, I can not dedicate -- I can not consecrate -- I can not hallow -- this ground. The brave persons, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above my current power to add or detract. For that reason, I have issued Executive Order 1863-005, providing for an additional and long-needed Presidential consecration authority.
The world will little note, nor long remember what I say here, but that’s only because video has not yet been invented, and I can see that the press corps is already getting bored. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which I have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for me, to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored corpse-men, I take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that I here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain – so that this nation, under me shall have a new birth of transformative social justice -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. At least not on my watch.
Why are all the TeaBirchers that wanted the Confederacy to win the Civil War upset about the Gettysburg Address? Is this one of those Stations Of The Cross or type moments that all Americans are expected to crawl on their hands and knees and wildly gesticulate over? Quit mixing your politics with ergot poisoning, guys. It makes you act kind of silly.
"Thanos" said Why are all the TeaBirchers that wanted the Confederacy to win the Civil War upset about the Gettysburg Address? Is this one of those Stations Of The Cross or type moments that all Americans are expected to crawl on their hands and knees and wildly gesticulate over? Quit mixing your politics with ergot poisoning, guys. It makes you act kind of silly.
By the way, here's some actual background on the FIVE different existing versions of the Address, which none of you Breit-bots could be bothered to point out:
Washington (CNN) – While the White House has taken some heat for choosing not to attend an event marking the 150th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln delivering the Gettysburg Address, it's President Barack Obama's recitation of the famed speech that's bringing up a true American controversy: Which of the five versions of the speech is correct?
Obama, a long-time admirer of Lincoln, recorded the speech as part of a project sponsored by PBS. He was one of 57 notable figures - including past Presidents George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, Sen. Marco Rubio, director Steven Spielberg and CNN's Wolf Blitzer – who recited the speech as part of a national public outreach campaign to encourage people to learn and recite the address in celebration of its 150th anniversary.
The president was the only person to tape a version, known as the 'Nicolay' version, which perhaps most notably is one that does not include "under God" in the second to last sentence. The selection came at the request of the documentarian Ken Burns, who has a team heading up the project. One of the producers told CNN they gave Obama this version to use to highlight that there are multiple versions.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney confirmed the producer's account, saying Tuesday the President "read the version of the address…Ken Burns provided." Carney added that was the Nicolay manuscript of the speech.
The other speakers recited what the Library of Congress calls the "standard text." In that version, the last sentence reads: "It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us-that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion-that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth."
The use of "under God" in the Gettysburg Address has an uncertain history. Of the five manuscript copies of the address, three contain the phrase and two do not.
The versions held in the Library of Congress – given by Lincoln to his two private secretaries – do not include the phrase "under God." Those copies, known as the Hay and Nicolay versions, are thought to pre-date the remaining three copies of the text, which Lincoln wrote out for charity well after the November 19, 1863 address. Those later versions all contain the "under God" expression. President Obama read, word for word, the Nicolay version of the speech.
The inscription of the Gettysburg Address at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington contains the words "under God," and contemporary transcriptions of the address by newspaper reporters also include it.
President George H.W. Bush, former New York Mayor David Dinkins, singers Taylor Swift and Usher were among the celebrities included in a mashup of the speech also posted on the website learntheaddress.org.
The National Park Service will hold a ceremony in Gettysburg on Tuesday to commemorate the address and Interior Secretary Sally Jewell will attend. Press Secretary Jay Carney did not respond directly to questions about why the president, who has twice been sworn into office using president Lincoln's Bible and who announced his bid for the presidency in Lincoln's adopted hometown of Springfield, Illinois, was not planning to attend the event.
"Obviously that address and that moment in time is seminal in our history and I think that all Americans across the country will have the opportunity to think about those words and that address," Carney said.
The PBS campaign is inspired by the subject of Burns' upcoming film The Address, about a small school in Vermont where students are encouraged to memorize, practice and recite the address, which the website calls "one of the most important declarations ever made on human equality."
"BartSimpson" said Why are all the TeaBirchers that wanted the Confederacy to win the Civil War upset about the Gettysburg Address? Is this one of those Stations Of The Cross or type moments that all Americans are expected to crawl on their hands and knees and wildly gesticulate over? Quit mixing your politics with ergot poisoning, guys. It makes you act kind of silly.
Gettysburg is sacred ground to us.
Which is kind of difficult to believe considering how many of your fellow citizens at any given time are actively trying to undo the main end result of the Civil War, i.e. the states cannot do whatever they want whenever they want in defiance of the federal system.
Which is kind of difficult to believe considering how many of your fellow citizens at any given time are actively trying to undo the main end result of the Civil War, i.e. the states cannot do whatever they want whenever they want in defiance of the federal system.
Maybe the next time I'm in Canada I should go piss on the Cenotaph to make you appreciate how I feel at this moment.
"ShepherdsDog" said his paternal family were never slaves......slave traders possibly, as there was a huge slave market in Mombasa
Oddly enough, he's descended on his mother's side from the first slave in the colonies that became the USA.
For added context, US students are taught that the Battle of Gettysburg was the turning point in our Civil War; the moment the survival of the Union became more likely than not. It was also the last time an enemy invaded one of the American states (Alaksa wasn't a state during WWII). The Gettysburg Address is not only the definitive postscript on the battle, it's probably the most important speech in American history. Almost all of us have memorized it in school. It can be mentioned in the same breath as the Declaration of Independence and no one will bat an eye.
As for the use of "Under God," multiple press telegraphs from the ceremony where President Lincoln gave the speech report that he spoke those words. It's not unreasonable to think that President Lincoln included the phrase in later manuscripts to better reflect the speech as delivered.
No, you guys on the far right can keep distorting and pissing all over your own country's history to your heart's content. Leave Canada out of this. That someone as decent and magnanimous as Abraham Lincoln wouldn't even have the slightest chance of being chosen as a Republican candidate in today's political climate, a climate deliberately created by the worst and most fetid minds among you, speaks volumes of the decline in decency and discourse that's happened over the last 150 years.
I'm not saying this to your personally, because I can tell you're getting upset, but I am genuinely confused about one thing. Why are people today who are so proudly and openly ANTI-government so reverential towards a man who's greatest legacy was to SAVE the government from traitors and, for lack of a better term, anarchists? Because that's what the Confederacy was, existentially, a movement that had the express purpose of destroying the federal/national component of the American Constitution. President Lincoln saved the government of the United States from the philosophical ancestors of the modern libertarians, anarcho-capitalists, and TeaBirchers. So, aside from an obviously terrible understanding of the history of their own nation, why are they now revering, or pretending to revere, him?
Which is kind of difficult to believe considering how many of your fellow citizens at any given time are actively trying to undo the main end result of the Civil War, i.e. the states cannot do whatever they want whenever they want in defiance of the federal system.
Maybe the next time I'm in Canada I should go piss on the Cenotaph to make you appreciate how I feel at this moment.
Lots of those graves ... and unburied bones at Gettysburg were Canadians. it is thought that roughly 40,000 Canadians fought in the US civil war ... on both sides but mostly for the union. Some did it for ideological reasons such as the fight against slavery. Some were simply shanghaied by U.S. Army recruiters in border saloons. Others did it for adventure.
it is not known just how many Canadians fought with U.S. forces in Vietnam (The US Military didn't record that part of the recruit's background) estimates ranging from 5,000 to 20,000 is one that I've seen often.
But, nope.
You would think Obongo should show up for this.
But, nope.
Because it would recognize something that was done by a Republican in a war against Democrats.
You would think Obongo should show up for this.
But, nope.
C'mon though you've gotta know that the world's greatest narcissist is going to inject himself into remembrance of a historical event somehow.
"Washington DC talk show host Chris Plante reported today that Barack Obama omitted the words "under God" from the Gettysburg Address when reciting the great speech for a Ken Burns documentary.
Burns had filmed all living presidents as well as various Hollywood personalities and luminaries to pay homage to the speech which was delivered by Abraham Lincoln 150 years ago, today.
Plante broke the story on Washington DC talk radio station WMAL on his mid-morning program, "The Chris Plante Show."
WMAL reports:
Curiously enough, in his version of the speech, President Barack Obama's delivery contained an omission - in a line that every other celebrity delivered as "that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom," the President left out the words "under God."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... rg-Address
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, actually deserves to endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. I have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation, fatally flawed though it may be, might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that I should do this.
But, in a larger sense, I can not dedicate -- I can not consecrate -- I can not hallow -- this ground. The brave persons, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above my current power to add or detract. For that reason, I have issued Executive Order 1863-005, providing for an additional and long-needed Presidential consecration authority.
The world will little note, nor long remember what I say here, but that’s only because video has not yet been invented, and I can see that the press corps is already getting bored. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which I have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for me, to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored corpse-men, I take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that I here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain – so that this nation, under me shall have a new birth of transformative social justice -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. At least not on my watch.
Why are all the TeaBirchers that wanted the Confederacy to win the Civil War upset about the Gettysburg Address? Is this one of those Stations Of The Cross or type moments that all Americans are expected to crawl on their hands and knees and wildly gesticulate over? Quit mixing your politics with ergot poisoning, guys. It makes you act kind of silly.
Gettysburg is sacred ground to us.
Obama, a long-time admirer of Lincoln, recorded the speech as part of a project sponsored by PBS. He was one of 57 notable figures - including past Presidents George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, Sen. Marco Rubio, director Steven Spielberg and CNN's Wolf Blitzer – who recited the speech as part of a national public outreach campaign to encourage people to learn and recite the address in celebration of its 150th anniversary.
The president was the only person to tape a version, known as the 'Nicolay' version, which perhaps most notably is one that does not include "under God" in the second to last sentence. The selection came at the request of the documentarian Ken Burns, who has a team heading up the project. One of the producers told CNN they gave Obama this version to use to highlight that there are multiple versions.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney confirmed the producer's account, saying Tuesday the President "read the version of the address…Ken Burns provided." Carney added that was the Nicolay manuscript of the speech.
The other speakers recited what the Library of Congress calls the "standard text." In that version, the last sentence reads: "It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us-that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion-that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth."
The use of "under God" in the Gettysburg Address has an uncertain history. Of the five manuscript copies of the address, three contain the phrase and two do not.
The versions held in the Library of Congress – given by Lincoln to his two private secretaries – do not include the phrase "under God." Those copies, known as the Hay and Nicolay versions, are thought to pre-date the remaining three copies of the text, which Lincoln wrote out for charity well after the November 19, 1863 address. Those later versions all contain the "under God" expression. President Obama read, word for word, the Nicolay version of the speech.
The inscription of the Gettysburg Address at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington contains the words "under God," and contemporary transcriptions of the address by newspaper reporters also include it.
President George H.W. Bush, former New York Mayor David Dinkins, singers Taylor Swift and Usher were among the celebrities included in a mashup of the speech also posted on the website learntheaddress.org.
The National Park Service will hold a ceremony in Gettysburg on Tuesday to commemorate the address and Interior Secretary Sally Jewell will attend. Press Secretary Jay Carney did not respond directly to questions about why the president, who has twice been sworn into office using president Lincoln's Bible and who announced his bid for the presidency in Lincoln's adopted hometown of Springfield, Illinois, was not planning to attend the event.
"Obviously that address and that moment in time is seminal in our history and I think that all Americans across the country will have the opportunity to think about those words and that address," Carney said.
The PBS campaign is inspired by the subject of Burns' upcoming film The Address, about a small school in Vermont where students are encouraged to memorize, practice and recite the address, which the website calls "one of the most important declarations ever made on human equality."
Doesn't matter! Facts don't matter! Facts vote Democrat anyway! Commie! Muslim! CommieMuslimHitlerStalin! Traitor to our country! *farts*
Why are all the TeaBirchers that wanted the Confederacy to win the Civil War upset about the Gettysburg Address? Is this one of those Stations Of The Cross or type moments that all Americans are expected to crawl on their hands and knees and wildly gesticulate over? Quit mixing your politics with ergot poisoning, guys. It makes you act kind of silly.
Gettysburg is sacred ground to us.
Which is kind of difficult to believe considering how many of your fellow citizens at any given time are actively trying to undo the main end result of the Civil War, i.e. the states cannot do whatever they want whenever they want in defiance of the federal system.
Gettysburg is sacred ground to us.
Which is kind of difficult to believe considering how many of your fellow citizens at any given time are actively trying to undo the main end result of the Civil War, i.e. the states cannot do whatever they want whenever they want in defiance of the federal system.
Maybe the next time I'm in Canada I should go piss on the Cenotaph to make you appreciate how I feel at this moment.
his paternal family were never slaves......slave traders possibly, as there was a huge slave market in Mombasa
Oddly enough, he's descended on his mother's side from the first slave in the colonies that became the USA.
For added context, US students are taught that the Battle of Gettysburg was the turning point in our Civil War; the moment the survival of the Union became more likely than not. It was also the last time an enemy invaded one of the American states (Alaksa wasn't a state during WWII). The Gettysburg Address is not only the definitive postscript on the battle, it's probably the most important speech in American history. Almost all of us have memorized it in school. It can be mentioned in the same breath as the Declaration of Independence and no one will bat an eye.
As for the use of "Under God," multiple press telegraphs from the ceremony where President Lincoln gave the speech report that he spoke those words. It's not unreasonable to think that President Lincoln included the phrase in later manuscripts to better reflect the speech as delivered.
I'm not saying this to your personally, because I can tell you're getting upset, but I am genuinely confused about one thing. Why are people today who are so proudly and openly ANTI-government so reverential towards a man who's greatest legacy was to SAVE the government from traitors and, for lack of a better term, anarchists? Because that's what the Confederacy was, existentially, a movement that had the express purpose of destroying the federal/national component of the American Constitution. President Lincoln saved the government of the United States from the philosophical ancestors of the modern libertarians, anarcho-capitalists, and TeaBirchers. So, aside from an obviously terrible understanding of the history of their own nation, why are they now revering, or pretending to revere, him?
Gettysburg is sacred ground to us.
Which is kind of difficult to believe considering how many of your fellow citizens at any given time are actively trying to undo the main end result of the Civil War, i.e. the states cannot do whatever they want whenever they want in defiance of the federal system.
Maybe the next time I'm in Canada I should go piss on the Cenotaph to make you appreciate how I feel at this moment.
Lots of those graves ... and unburied bones at Gettysburg were Canadians.
it is thought that roughly 40,000 Canadians fought in the US civil war ... on both sides but mostly for the union. Some did it for ideological reasons such as the fight against slavery. Some were simply shanghaied by U.S. Army recruiters in border saloons. Others did it for adventure.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/boo ... e12559597/
it is not known just how many Canadians fought with U.S. forces in Vietnam (The US Military didn't record that part of the recruit's background) estimates ranging from 5,000 to 20,000 is one that I've seen often.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985 ... m-veterans
I personally know one and when I was posting the above link, I discovered that I actually know two.