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Baird says Canada cannot allow Syria to act with impunity


Political | 206774 hits | Sep 07 6:56 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird says the world cannot stand by as the Assad regime gasses civilians, but he expects Russia to block any vote at the United Nations supporting military intervention.

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  1. by avatar Guy_Fawkes
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:00 am
    Sure it can.

  2. by avatar xerxes
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:02 am
    We can't allow Baird to run his mouth with impunity either.

  3. by avatar saturn_656
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:30 am
    So what are we going to do about it besides wag our finger?

  4. by avatar bootlegga
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:36 am
    I fully agree with him - nations that commit atrocities (against their own citizens or others) need to be punished. Let's just make sure this actually happened and this isn't another 'Niger Yellow Cake' load of BS like Iraq was.

    Then we do it exactly what we did in Libya (use airpower and not troops).

  5. by jeff744
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:40 am
    "bootlegga" said
    I fully agree with him - nations that commit atrocities (against their own citizens or others) need to be punished. Let's just make sure this actually happened and this isn't another 'Niger Yellow Cake' load of BS like Iraq was.

    Then we do it exactly what we did in Libya (use airpower and not troops).

    Pretty much, the rebels in Syria are still a hell of a lot better than a dictator and unlike in Egypt they have had the time to organize enough that the MB won't be able to win an election because they are the only organized party. Bring them real democracy and they will figure the rest out.

  6. by avatar Guy_Fawkes
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:50 am
    From what I have been reading the rebels, who have strong ties to fundamentalist Islamic terrorism, are not interested in a democratic Syria. Say we do help the terrorist/freedom fighters win a civil war, then what?

  7. by jeff744
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:53 am
    "Guy_Fawkes" said
    From what I have been reading the rebels, who have strong ties to fundamentalist Islamic terrorism, are not interested in a democratic Syria. Say we do help the terrorist/freedom fighters win a civil war, then what?

    There's a split, the powerful ones are tied to Islamic powers only because that's the only way to get money and weapons. If you want western rebels you need to give them a reason to join your side, not expect them to join your side when you promise slingshots while the other guy is giving RPGs.

  8. by avatar xerxes
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:54 am
    Exactly. There's a bunch of different rebel groups and a good chunk of them are Al-Qaeda wannabes. There's no good guys/bad guys in this. Only varying degrees of bad. Which is exactly why we need to stay far away from mess.

  9. by avatar Guy_Fawkes
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:04 am
    Even if you plant rebels who support the west into power, you still have the Al-Qaeda rebels in the wings ready to continue the fight. The only thing I think we should do is help the neighbors of Syria, who have been flooded with refugees. Wait until the dust settles, then we open diplomacy with the winner.

  10. by jeff744
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:13 am
    "Guy_Fawkes" said
    Even if you plant rebels who support the west into power, you still have the Al-Qaeda rebels in the wings ready to continue the fight. The only thing I think we should do is help the neighbors of Syria, who have been flooded with refugees. Wait until the dust settles, then we open diplomacy with the winner.

    Al-Qaeda only have power as long as the locals let them have it, show them they have more to gain from working peacefully with the west than fighting and support will dry up. Easy to fight terror when shepherds and civilians start reporting suspicious movement on a regular basis.

  11. by avatar Guy_Fawkes
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:14 am
    Because that worked wonderfully well in Afghanistan.

  12. by jeff744
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:20 am
    "Guy_Fawkes" said
    Because that worked wonderfully well in Afghanistan.

    Had no support in Afghanistan, worked a lot better in Libya where they are a hell of a lot more appreciative of the west. This would be the same thing, supporting the rebels because they wanted it without ever setting foot on land.

  13. by avatar Guy_Fawkes
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:30 am
    Syria has never had great relations with the West, Russia has been their partner for over 40 years, I say let the Russians take this one.

  14. by jeff744
    Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:31 am
    "Guy_Fawkes" said
    Syria has never had great relations with the West, Russia has been their partner for over 40 years, I say let the Russians take this one.

    Syria's government hasn't, the people are another matter.



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