I think as far as the money goes, too bad he should be able to keep it. But the article does have a point about a public official being paid to speak on matters that regarding public policy such as; furniture for seniors in old folks homes, this home I'm sure receives money from the province in one capacity or another
You'd think common sense would prevail here and he'd pay back the money just for the optics alone. He's coming off as greedy and petty especially considering the Charity event was a flop and he might have been part of the problem.
I wonder how long it's gonna take his handlers to teach him that image is everything and his sucks.
MP's shouldn't be allowed to charge for speaking engagements. When they're retired or no longer sit in the House...that's a different story but this has to change.
I usually attend an charity event in Toronto yearly to support War Veterans and there's always a MP and MPP in attendance to speak and they don't charge for their appearance. I'll note that the MP is Conservative and the MPP is Liberal.
Just the fact that while in office he is getting paid to speak sounds wrong to me. I can't explain why but is he not already getting paid by the public while he holds office. I understand fund raisers for campains and things like that. Doing a charity fund raiser while in office and getting paid to do it just does not feel right to me.
Understood he doesn't have to return the money, the charity made a deal. It would be a tremendous gesture of good will on his part if he gave it back (less his expenses). It's not like he needs the money, most people in his bracket give to charity, not take from it.
I know some of his paid gigs have been during company time (the House was sitting). Does anyone know if this particular gig was double dipping or the House wasn't in session?
No taxpayer money was used for Mr. Trudeau to attend the event
Hmmmm. I beg to differ. He is paid for by the taxpayer, and if he is 'busy' doing paid fundraising stuff, he is not doing what he is paid for by the taxpayer.
No PM in office should be allowed to have paid gigs on the side. No one on welfare can without being cut, why should he? Take that $20k out of his salary.
"redhatmamma" said I know some of his paid gigs have been during company time (the House was sitting). Does anyone know if this particular gig was double dipping or the House wasn't in session?
The event was held on Monday, April 30, 2012. Records show Trudeau missed two votes in the House that day.
Trudeau’s fee also took up almost half the speaker’s fees – and there were nine other speakers, including Saskatoon MLA Rob Norris who did not accept money
The more I learn about this guy, the more I get the impression he really doesn't give a shit about the country. It's a no brainer this is a conflict of interest, and the rest of us would get fired from our jobs if we pulled the same stunt. I wonder what it's going to take for him to stop doing it.
Conservative Saskatoon MP Brad Trost agreed he would never accept fees as a sitting MP.
“We contribute, we don’t take. That should be the nature of our job. Our job is to contribute and represent the community,” he said.
That's bad, how is it deemed ethical to moonlight when the House is in session. I wonder if the ruling he got took that into consideration. If any other type of employee skipped a few days to earn money elsewhere, he'd be fired.
WTF is different than going home and selling Amway after work. Who gives a shit? And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay. You WANT? You BUY.
"herbie" said WTF is different than going home and selling Amway after work. Who gives a shit? And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay. You WANT? You BUY.
FAFAIK... He was selling Amway while he was supposed to do his job that is paid for by tax payers. In real life, that would cost you the latter and you can sell Amway 24/7.
"herbie" said WTF is different than going home and selling Amway after work. Who gives a shit? And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay. You WANT? You BUY.
Except he skipped work (while still being paid) for the speaking engagements and charged them 20K for it. No MP should charge for speaking, he's still an MP.
JUSTIN TRUDEAU SPEAKING EVENTS 2006-2012
As disclosed by Trudeau’s leadership campaign.
2006
January 14, 2006 – University of British Columbia. $5,000
January 19, 2006 – University of Guelph. $7,500
January 24, 2006 – Wilson Young & Associates Inc.. $7,500
February 17, 2006 – Mastercard Canada. $10,000
March 7, 2006 – Toronto District School Board. $7,500
April 6, 2006 – Toronto School Administrators Association. $7,500
April 20, 2006 – Ontario Catholic School Trustees Association. $7,500
May 3, 2006 – Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. $10,000
May 10, 2006 – Professional Administrators of Volunteer Resoucres. $7,500
May 10, 2006 – Toronto District School Board. $5,000
May 12, 2006 – Toronto School Administrators Association. $7,500
May 13, 2006 – The Learning Partnership. $10,000
June 1, 2006 – Burlington Economic Development Corporation. $10,000
June 7, 2006 – Ontario Association of Children’s Aid Societies c, 20o Meeting Management Services. $7,500
August 23, 2006 – Incentive Works. $7,500
September 30, 2006 – Friends of MacGregor Point Park. $5,000
September 30, 2006 – Waterloo Region Ditrict School Board. $7,500
October 14, 2006 – Nova Scotia Nature Trust. $7,500
October 16, 2006 – Ministry of Education. $3,000
October 20, 2006 – Canadian Parks & Recreation Association. $10,000
October 21, 2006 – The Victoria Foundation. $7,500
October 23, 2006 – Canadian Federation of Independent Grocers. $10,000
October 24, 2006 – Municipality of Chatham-Kent. $10,000
October 26, 2006 – Ministry of Children & Youth Services. $8,000
October 26, 2006 – Ridley College. $7,500
November 2, 2006 – Making Connections. $10,000
November 3, 2006 – Wakamow Valley Authority. $7,500
November 7, 2006 – Ontario School Counsellors’ Association. $7,500
November 7, 2006 – Ontario Hospital Association. $10,000
November 9, 2006 – Federation of Portuguese Canadians Business & Professionals. $7,500
November 10, 2006 – Georgian College. $10,000
November 15, 2006 – Association of Fundraising Professionals. $10,000
November 17, 2006 – Alberta Teachers’ Association. $7,500
November 21, 2006 – Canadian Water Network. $9,000
November 22, 2006 – Carleton University. $10,000
December 6, 2006 – Ministry of Community & Social Services. $7,500
2007
January 24, 2007 – University of Manitoba – Student’s Union. $10,000
February 9, 2007 – Ottawa Carlton District School Board. $10,000
February 11, 2007 – Meridican Incentive Consultants. $10,000
February 15, 2007 – London Convention Centre. $10,000
February 16, 2007 – Reading for the Love of it. $7,500
February 16, 2007 – Association Franco-Ontarienne des Conseils Scolaires Catholiques. $7,500
February 16, 2007 – Toronto Board of Trade. $10,000
February 17, 2007 – Eventful Times. $10,000
February 27, 2007 – George Brown College. $10,000
March 5, 2007 – University of Waterloo. $10,000
March 15, 2007 – Alberta Teachers’ Association. $10,000
April 3, 2007 – Rapport Youth & Family Services. $10,000
May 4, 2007 – New Brunswick Teachers’ Association. $10,000
May 5, 2007 – South Huron District Secondary School Council. $10,000
May 8, 2007 – Community Safety & Crime Prevention Council of Waterloo. $10,000
May 13, 2007 – Blessed Events. $10,000
May 14, 2007 – Canadian Association of Healthcare Philanthropy. $10,000
May 16, 2007 – Leadership Windsor, 20Essex. $10,000
May 17 & 18, 2007 – Niagara Catholic District School Board. $15,000
June 4, 2007 – Educational Computing Network of Ontario. $10,000
June 5, 2007 – London Interfaith Counselling Centre. $10,000
June 7, 2007 – Nova Scotia Co-operative Council. $10,000
June 10, 2007 – Rivers West c, 20o Ugly Duckling Productions. $10,000
June 18, 2007 – Baker Schneider Rugierro LLP. $11,000
June 25, 2007 – American Water Works Association. $10,000
June 25, 2007 – Municipal Finance Officers’ Association. $10,000
July 3, 2007 – Canadian School Boards Association c, 20o Alberta School Boards Association . $10,000
August 21, 2007 – First Nations Water Conference – Smith’s Landing First Nation . $6,000
September 7, 2007 – Human Concern International. $10,000
September 10, 2007 – Canadian Society of Safety Engineering. $10,000
September 16, 2007 – Treasury Management Association of Canada. $10,000
September 24, 2007 – Sudbury & District Health Unit. $10,000
September 27, 2007 – York University. $10,000
October 4, 2007 – Sony Computer Entertainment Canada. $10,000
October 16, 2007 – Ontario Community Support Association. $10,000
October 20, 2007 – Rotary Club of Etobicoke. $10,000
October 24, 2007 – Ontario Secondary School Teachers’ Federation. $10,000
October 25, 2007 – Toronto Law Office Management Association. $10,000
October 27, 2007 – Society of Management Accountants of Ontario. $15,000
November 6, 2007 – City of Mississauga. $10,000
November 8, 2007 – Certified General Accountants Association of Ontario. $10,000
November 16, 2007 – Latornell. $10,000
November 18, 2007 – Canadian Tamil Youth Development Centre. $10,000
November 18, 2007 – National Council of Jewish Women of Canada. $10,000
November 22, 2007 – Toronto Eaton Centre. $10,000
November 28, 2007 – Peel District School Board. $10,000
2008
January 25, 2008 – Ontario Camping Association. $10,000
February 4, 2008 – Canadian Association of Food Service Professionals. $10,000
February 5, 2008 – Peterborough Victoria Northhumberland Clarington Catholic School Board. $10,000
February 9, 2008 – Ontario English Catholic Teachers Association. $10,000
February 11, 2008 – Edmonton Public School Board. $10,000
March 28, 2008 – Charity of Hope. $10,000
March 31, 2008 – Centre for Education & Training. $15,000
April 8, 2008 – Avant Strategic Communications. $15,000
April 9, 2008 – Youth Environmental Network of York Region. $10,000
April 10, 2008 – Canadian Real Estate Association. $15,000
April 15, 2008 – Planners Plus Inc.. $15,000
April 22, 2008 – Packaging Association of Canada. $15,000
April 22, 2008 – First Canadian Place c, 20o Brookfield Properties Corp.. $15,000
April 23, 2008 – The Regional Municipality of Halton. $10,000
April 23, 2008 – University of Ottawa. $5,000
May 6, 2008 – Canadian Mental Health Association – Grey Bruce Branch. $15,000
May 9, 2008 – Children of Hope. $10,000
May 21, 2008 – Notre Dame Catholic Secondary School. $10,000
May 22, 2008 – CIBC Wood Gundy c, 20o The Wynford Group. $20,000
June 3, 2008 – National Healthcare Leadership Conference. $10,000
June 5, 2008 – Humber College. $10,000
June 12, 2008 – Uniter Way of Northhumberland. $12,500
June 13, 2008 – Community Living Ontario. $10,000
June 15, 2008 – Canadian Investors Relations Institute. $15,000
September 8, 2008 – SYSCO Canada. $15,000
October 20, 2008 – London Health Sciences Centre. $10,000
November 5, 2008 – Marketing Magazine – Rogers Media. $20,000
2009
January 31, 2009 – Ontario Library Association. $10,000
November 2, 2009 – The Learning Partnership. $10,000
November 6, 2009 – Waterloo Catholic District School Board. $15,000
2010
March 5, 2010 – Ontario Public Service Employees’ Union. $20,000
April 23, 2010 – Charity of Hope. $15,000
May 7, 2010 – Algonquin & Lakeshore Catholic District School Board. $15,000
September 23, 2010 – REED Construction Data. $20,000
December 6, 2010 – Certified Management Accountants of Ontario . $20,000
2011
January 25, 2011 – Rain 43 (Canada’s National Advertising Week), Toronto, ON. $20,000
June 9, 2011 – Kincardine District Secondary School, Kincardine, ON. $10,000
June 15, 2011 – Credit Institute of Canada, Ottawa, ON. $20,000
2012
April 25, 2012 – Queen’s University, Kingston, ON. $12,000
April 30, 2012 – Literacy for Life, Saskatoon, SK. $20,000
June 26, 2012 – Canadian Mental Health Association – Halton Region, Burlington, ON. $20,000
June 27, 2012 – Grace Foundation, Saint John, NB. $20,000
Couldn't find anything for Quebec in that list. So does that mean he has never had a speaking engagement in Quebec ? Or he doesn't charge for speaking engagements in Quebec.
Blame the charity for the shortfall, not Trudeau. It wasn't up to him to assess whether the charity's money was being well spent by engaging his services.
On the separate issue of whether he should have been giving paid speeches as a sitting MP, I think he's way out of line, especially if he missed sittings of the House to do so.
Hence, a conflict of interest.
You'd think common sense would prevail here and he'd pay back the money just for the optics alone. He's coming off as greedy and petty especially considering the Charity event was a flop and he might have been part of the problem.
I wonder how long it's gonna take his handlers to teach him that image is everything and his sucks.
I usually attend an charity event in Toronto yearly to support War Veterans and there's always a MP and MPP in attendance to speak and they don't charge for their appearance. I'll note that the MP is Conservative and the MPP is Liberal.
I know some of his paid gigs have been during company time (the House was sitting). Does anyone know if this particular gig was double dipping or the House wasn't in session?
Hmmmm. I beg to differ. He is paid for by the taxpayer, and if he is 'busy' doing paid fundraising stuff, he is not doing what he is paid for by the taxpayer.
No PM in office should be allowed to have paid gigs on the side. No one on welfare can without being cut, why should he? Take that $20k out of his salary.
I know some of his paid gigs have been during company time (the House was sitting). Does anyone know if this particular gig was double dipping or the House wasn't in session?
Apparently yes.
http://globalnews.ca/news/643856/brad-w ... king-fees/
Regarding the Sask event.
Trudeau’s fee also took up almost half the speaker’s fees – and there were nine other speakers, including Saskatoon MLA Rob Norris who did not accept money
The more I learn about this guy, the more I get the impression he really doesn't give a shit about the country. It's a no brainer this is a conflict of interest, and the rest of us would get fired from our jobs if we pulled the same stunt. I wonder what it's going to take for him to stop doing it.
“We contribute, we don’t take. That should be the nature of our job. Our job is to contribute and represent the community,” he said.
And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay.
You WANT? You BUY.
WTF is different than going home and selling Amway after work. Who gives a shit?
And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay.
You WANT? You BUY.
FAFAIK... He was selling Amway while he was supposed to do his job that is paid for by tax payers. In real life, that would cost you the latter and you can sell Amway 24/7.
I see no ethical way for him to keep the funds.
WTF is different than going home and selling Amway after work. Who gives a shit?
And fuck the non-profits. If they want a politician their local MP does it for free. If they want a specific Leader - pay.
You WANT? You BUY.
Except he skipped work (while still being paid) for the speaking engagements and charged them 20K for it. No MP should charge for speaking, he's still an MP.
2006-2012
As disclosed by Trudeau’s leadership campaign.
2006
January 14, 2006 – University of British Columbia. $5,000
January 19, 2006 – University of Guelph. $7,500
January 24, 2006 – Wilson Young & Associates Inc.. $7,500
February 17, 2006 – Mastercard Canada. $10,000
March 7, 2006 – Toronto District School Board. $7,500
April 6, 2006 – Toronto School Administrators Association. $7,500
April 20, 2006 – Ontario Catholic School Trustees Association. $7,500
May 3, 2006 – Elementary Teachers Federation of Ontario. $10,000
May 10, 2006 – Professional Administrators of Volunteer Resoucres. $7,500
May 10, 2006 – Toronto District School Board. $5,000
May 12, 2006 – Toronto School Administrators Association. $7,500
May 13, 2006 – The Learning Partnership. $10,000
June 1, 2006 – Burlington Economic Development Corporation. $10,000
June 7, 2006 – Ontario Association of Children’s Aid Societies c, 20o Meeting Management Services. $7,500
August 23, 2006 – Incentive Works. $7,500
September 30, 2006 – Friends of MacGregor Point Park. $5,000
September 30, 2006 – Waterloo Region Ditrict School Board. $7,500
October 14, 2006 – Nova Scotia Nature Trust. $7,500
October 16, 2006 – Ministry of Education. $3,000
October 20, 2006 – Canadian Parks & Recreation Association. $10,000
October 21, 2006 – The Victoria Foundation. $7,500
October 23, 2006 – Canadian Federation of Independent Grocers. $10,000
October 24, 2006 – Municipality of Chatham-Kent. $10,000
October 26, 2006 – Ministry of Children & Youth Services. $8,000
October 26, 2006 – Ridley College. $7,500
November 2, 2006 – Making Connections. $10,000
November 3, 2006 – Wakamow Valley Authority. $7,500
November 7, 2006 – Ontario School Counsellors’ Association. $7,500
November 7, 2006 – Ontario Hospital Association. $10,000
November 9, 2006 – Federation of Portuguese Canadians Business & Professionals. $7,500
November 10, 2006 – Georgian College. $10,000
November 15, 2006 – Association of Fundraising Professionals. $10,000
November 17, 2006 – Alberta Teachers’ Association. $7,500
November 21, 2006 – Canadian Water Network. $9,000
November 22, 2006 – Carleton University. $10,000
December 6, 2006 – Ministry of Community & Social Services. $7,500
2007
January 24, 2007 – University of Manitoba – Student’s Union. $10,000
February 9, 2007 – Ottawa Carlton District School Board. $10,000
February 11, 2007 – Meridican Incentive Consultants. $10,000
February 15, 2007 – London Convention Centre. $10,000
February 16, 2007 – Reading for the Love of it. $7,500
February 16, 2007 – Association Franco-Ontarienne des Conseils Scolaires Catholiques. $7,500
February 16, 2007 – Toronto Board of Trade. $10,000
February 17, 2007 – Eventful Times. $10,000
February 27, 2007 – George Brown College. $10,000
March 5, 2007 – University of Waterloo. $10,000
March 15, 2007 – Alberta Teachers’ Association. $10,000
April 3, 2007 – Rapport Youth & Family Services. $10,000
May 4, 2007 – New Brunswick Teachers’ Association. $10,000
May 5, 2007 – South Huron District Secondary School Council. $10,000
May 8, 2007 – Community Safety & Crime Prevention Council of Waterloo. $10,000
May 13, 2007 – Blessed Events. $10,000
May 14, 2007 – Canadian Association of Healthcare Philanthropy. $10,000
May 16, 2007 – Leadership Windsor, 20Essex. $10,000
May 17 & 18, 2007 – Niagara Catholic District School Board. $15,000
June 4, 2007 – Educational Computing Network of Ontario. $10,000
June 5, 2007 – London Interfaith Counselling Centre. $10,000
June 7, 2007 – Nova Scotia Co-operative Council. $10,000
June 10, 2007 – Rivers West c, 20o Ugly Duckling Productions. $10,000
June 18, 2007 – Baker Schneider Rugierro LLP. $11,000
June 25, 2007 – American Water Works Association. $10,000
June 25, 2007 – Municipal Finance Officers’ Association. $10,000
July 3, 2007 – Canadian School Boards Association c, 20o Alberta School Boards Association . $10,000
August 21, 2007 – First Nations Water Conference – Smith’s Landing First Nation . $6,000
September 7, 2007 – Human Concern International. $10,000
September 10, 2007 – Canadian Society of Safety Engineering. $10,000
September 16, 2007 – Treasury Management Association of Canada. $10,000
September 24, 2007 – Sudbury & District Health Unit. $10,000
September 27, 2007 – York University. $10,000
October 4, 2007 – Sony Computer Entertainment Canada. $10,000
October 16, 2007 – Ontario Community Support Association. $10,000
October 20, 2007 – Rotary Club of Etobicoke. $10,000
October 24, 2007 – Ontario Secondary School Teachers’ Federation. $10,000
October 25, 2007 – Toronto Law Office Management Association. $10,000
October 27, 2007 – Society of Management Accountants of Ontario. $15,000
November 6, 2007 – City of Mississauga. $10,000
November 8, 2007 – Certified General Accountants Association of Ontario. $10,000
November 16, 2007 – Latornell. $10,000
November 18, 2007 – Canadian Tamil Youth Development Centre. $10,000
November 18, 2007 – National Council of Jewish Women of Canada. $10,000
November 22, 2007 – Toronto Eaton Centre. $10,000
November 28, 2007 – Peel District School Board. $10,000
2008
January 25, 2008 – Ontario Camping Association. $10,000
February 4, 2008 – Canadian Association of Food Service Professionals. $10,000
February 5, 2008 – Peterborough Victoria Northhumberland Clarington Catholic School Board. $10,000
February 9, 2008 – Ontario English Catholic Teachers Association. $10,000
February 11, 2008 – Edmonton Public School Board. $10,000
March 28, 2008 – Charity of Hope. $10,000
March 31, 2008 – Centre for Education & Training. $15,000
April 8, 2008 – Avant Strategic Communications. $15,000
April 9, 2008 – Youth Environmental Network of York Region. $10,000
April 10, 2008 – Canadian Real Estate Association. $15,000
April 15, 2008 – Planners Plus Inc.. $15,000
April 22, 2008 – Packaging Association of Canada. $15,000
April 22, 2008 – First Canadian Place c, 20o Brookfield Properties Corp.. $15,000
April 23, 2008 – The Regional Municipality of Halton. $10,000
April 23, 2008 – University of Ottawa. $5,000
May 6, 2008 – Canadian Mental Health Association – Grey Bruce Branch. $15,000
May 9, 2008 – Children of Hope. $10,000
May 21, 2008 – Notre Dame Catholic Secondary School. $10,000
May 22, 2008 – CIBC Wood Gundy c, 20o The Wynford Group. $20,000
June 3, 2008 – National Healthcare Leadership Conference. $10,000
June 5, 2008 – Humber College. $10,000
June 12, 2008 – Uniter Way of Northhumberland. $12,500
June 13, 2008 – Community Living Ontario. $10,000
June 15, 2008 – Canadian Investors Relations Institute. $15,000
September 8, 2008 – SYSCO Canada. $15,000
October 20, 2008 – London Health Sciences Centre. $10,000
November 5, 2008 – Marketing Magazine – Rogers Media. $20,000
2009
January 31, 2009 – Ontario Library Association. $10,000
November 2, 2009 – The Learning Partnership. $10,000
November 6, 2009 – Waterloo Catholic District School Board. $15,000
2010
March 5, 2010 – Ontario Public Service Employees’ Union. $20,000
April 23, 2010 – Charity of Hope. $15,000
May 7, 2010 – Algonquin & Lakeshore Catholic District School Board. $15,000
September 23, 2010 – REED Construction Data. $20,000
December 6, 2010 – Certified Management Accountants of Ontario . $20,000
2011
January 25, 2011 – Rain 43 (Canada’s National Advertising Week), Toronto, ON. $20,000
June 9, 2011 – Kincardine District Secondary School, Kincardine, ON. $10,000
June 15, 2011 – Credit Institute of Canada, Ottawa, ON. $20,000
2012
April 25, 2012 – Queen’s University, Kingston, ON. $12,000
April 30, 2012 – Literacy for Life, Saskatoon, SK. $20,000
June 26, 2012 – Canadian Mental Health Association – Halton Region, Burlington, ON. $20,000
June 27, 2012 – Grace Foundation, Saint John, NB. $20,000
Couldn't find anything for Quebec in that list. So does that mean he has never had a speaking engagement in Quebec ? Or he doesn't charge for speaking engagements in Quebec.
On the separate issue of whether he should have been giving paid speeches as a sitting MP, I think he's way out of line, especially if he missed sittings of the House to do so.