BC Hydro backs down on smart meter installation

Lucky I was home when they came round.

Peak hour billing coming soon.. after the next election.

So should consumers pay rates based on market principles of supply and demand if they choose to consume more hydro during peak hours, or should big government be subsidizing people's choice to use during peak demand with taxpayer dollars?

Yer so full of shit sometimes.

market principles in electricity..

We've had smart meter billing for a few years and it hasn't been a big deal. Our overall bill is about the same. The only thing we try to avoid is doing wash in peak hours which isn't hard considering there is only two of us and we're usually not home during those hours.

This is a PDF link to our schedule.

http://www.tbhydro.on.ca/tou/DecalMockupForWEB.pdf

Yep. Had it for a few months now with no change to billing. We watch our power consumption to avoid heavy use during peak times.

Not difficult.

Anyway, I guess your adult diapers save on cash as well.

Disclaimer for Bodah...this is in no way meant to give offence to those Mods (Regina, Hyack and Public_Domain if he gets his way) who wear adult diapers. There is no intentional impingement of their character nor suggestion that wearing nappies is in any way a negative reflection on their character!

Yer so full of shit sometimes.

market principles in electricity..

Call me when I can shit can Hydro One and buy power from another utility.

Until then, to the end consumer, there is no damn market. Just the barrel they have you bent over.

We've had it for years. No change.

You have lots of options, for example, purchasing a wind turbine or solar panels, gasoline generator, switch all your appliances to natural gas, etc. What sort of other option were you thinking of? The government already subsidizes a hefty chunk of your electricity bill through Hydro One. You'd be a lot less happy if you paid market price from them, let alone how much more it would cost you to bolt from the grid and power your house with a gasoline generator.

We went on the smart meter last spring and the only change for us is that now we wait 'til 7:00pm, instead of right after supper, to switch the dishwasher on. Our total costs haven't changed.

You have lots of options, for example, purchasing a wind turbine or solar panels, gasoline generator, switch all your appliances to natural gas, etc. What sort of other option were you thinking of? The government already subsidizes a hefty chunk of your electricity bill through Hydro One. You'd be a lot less happy if you paid market price from them, let alone how much more it would cost you to bolt from the grid and power your house with a gasoline generator.

We went on the smart meter last spring and the only change for us is that now we wait 'til 7:00pm, instead of right after supper, to switch the dishwasher on. Our total costs haven't changed.

We've had this discussion before Lemmy.

The "spot market price" for Hydro in Ontario is 2.53 cents per kilowatt hour.

http://www.theimo.com/

Right now on Hydro One I'm paying 11.2 cents per kilowatt hour.

http://www.hydroone.com/RegulatoryAffai ... fault.aspx

who is your utility?

'Smart meters' are not so smart. They're easily hacked to prevent peak hour billing charges. I'm not going to post here how to do this but I imagine anyone reading this knows how to use Google.

We have "peak hours"?



http://www.fortisbc.com/MediaCentre/New ... -rate.aspx

I can't find anything about peak hours, other than usage. I mean, there is not higher rate during the day and cheaper during the night, for as far as I can find. Try to use less than 800kWh per month.

You have lots of options, for example, purchasing a wind turbine or solar panels, gasoline generator, switch all your appliances to natural gas, etc. What sort of other option were you thinking of? The government already subsidizes a hefty chunk of your electricity bill through Hydro One. You'd be a lot less happy if you paid market price from them, let alone how much more it would cost you to bolt from the grid and power your house with a gasoline generator.

We went on the smart meter last spring and the only change for us is that now we wait 'til 7:00pm, instead of right after supper, to switch the dishwasher on. Our total costs haven't changed.

We've had this discussion before Lemmy.

The "spot market price" for Hydro in Ontario is 2.53 cents per kilowatt/hr
http://www.theimo.com/

Right now on Hydro One I'm paying 11.2 cents per kilowatt hour.
What does the spot market price have to do with anything? Nothing. Do you even know what a spot price is? It's not the same as a market price for the consumer. You're confusing the two things. You're also assuming that the construction fairy built free generation plants that run cost-free.

Canadians pay among the lowest prices for electricity in the world. Sure, everyone'd like cheaper prices for everything. Now stop dodging my question and explain what you think should be changed.