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Two-thirds of China's cities fail on air standa

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Two-thirds of China's cities fail on air standards


Environmental | 206833 hits | Mar 02 9:20 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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Two-thirds of China's cities currently fail to meet stricter air quality standards that the government wants to phase in over four years to combat notoriously smoggy skies, a senior Chinese environmental official said Friday.

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  1. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:12 pm
    Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.

  2. by avatar dino_bobba_renno
    Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:19 pm
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.


    *scratches his chin* hmmm, I wonder who that will be :lol:

  3. by avatar xerxes
    Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:51 pm
    Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.

  4. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:58 pm
    "xerxes" said
    Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


    It's a good news story then. :lol:

  5. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:53 pm
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.



    ROTFL ROTFL

  6. by avatar 2Cdo
    Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:56 pm
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.


    He can't talk right now because him and another family member are advising the Argentine government about the potential Falklands crisis. 8)

  7. by avatar KorbenDeck
    Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:24 pm
    I'm more surprised that 1/3rd of the cities passed. What is the requirement? Be able to see the top of a building from the ground?

  8. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:48 pm
    The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.

    "KorbenDeck" said
    I'm more surprised that 1/3rd of the cities passed. What is the requirement? Be able to see the top of a building from the ground?


    Don't laugh. There is often a slight haze between our apartment and the ground.

  9. by hucat
    Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:49 am
    "We also want to build up public confidence in the data we provide in order to better serve the public," Wu said.


    There is no public confidence in government released environment data, not a bit. What a shame they are lying about even the capital city's air condition.

  10. by avatar bootlegga
    Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:16 pm
    "xerxes" said
    Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


    Well according to te article, those are Chinese standards, not international ones. The international standards are almost twice as tough as the Chinese ones.

    "ShepherdsDog" said
    The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.


    In my experience, Taiwanese were actually worse than Chinese ones for air pollution. I was able to see a blue sky in most of the Chinese cities I've visited - I can't say the same about Kaoshiung or Hsinchu. Even Taipei was smoggy most days I was there.

    It really sucks when you visit a place and all you see is grey haze everywhere... :(

  11. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:58 pm
    "bootlegga" said
    Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


    Well according to te article, those are Chinese standards, not international ones. The international standards are almost twice as tough as the Chinese ones.

    "ShepherdsDog" said
    The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.


    In my experience, Taiwanese were actually worse than Chinese ones for air pollution. I was able to see a blue sky in most of the Chinese cities I've visited - I can't say the same about Kaoshiung or Hsinchu. Even Taipei was smoggy most days I was there.

    It really sucks when you visit a place and all you see is grey haze everywhere... :(

    In fairness, humidity exacerbates smog problems. In the bad old days in Los Angeles you could look at the humidity for the day and calculate air quality off of that.

    The down side of low humidity days coupled with pollution is you get increased ozone levels.

    Curiously, in the Sacramento region, every summer day when there's a warning on ozone levels the ozone maps always show the bloom starting at the Intel plant in Folsom. Maybe it's a coincidence, but it's extremely consistent.

  12. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:59 pm
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    Some retard will come along and try and bullshit the forum about how China is making great strides towards unrealistic environmental standards....and he knows this to be the gospel truth because he has contacts in the People's Congress....people he helped train in 1940 when he worked beside Norman Bethune.


    +1 8)

  13. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:37 am
    "bootlegga" said
    Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


    Well according to te article, those are Chinese standards, not international ones. The international standards are almost twice as tough as the Chinese ones.

    "ShepherdsDog" said
    The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.


    In my experience, Taiwanese were actually worse than Chinese ones for air pollution. I was able to see a blue sky in most of the Chinese cities I've visited - I can't say the same about Kaoshiung or Hsinchu. Even Taipei was smoggy most days I was there.

    It really sucks when you visit a place and all you see is grey haze everywhere... :( This is the view I have this morning. it's been like this for a few days. The UV tends to burn a lot of the haze off when it gets warm. The only change to the picture is a polarizing filter. This winter, when air quality is usually at it's worse, was not too bad because we were abnormally damp.

  14. by avatar bootlegga
    Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:02 pm
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    Only 2/3 fail air quality standards? I would have guessed at least 80%.


    Well according to te article, those are Chinese standards, not international ones. The international standards are almost twice as tough as the Chinese ones.

    "ShepherdsDog" said
    The Chinese(the Taiwanese too, although they are improving) alter their 'standards'. So even those cities they claim meet standards for air quality, would fail if international standards were applied.


    In my experience, Taiwanese were actually worse than Chinese ones for air pollution. I was able to see a blue sky in most of the Chinese cities I've visited - I can't say the same about Kaoshiung or Hsinchu. Even Taipei was smoggy most days I was there.

    It really sucks when you visit a place and all you see is grey haze everywhere... :( This is the view I have this morning. it's been like this for a few days. The UV tends to burn a lot of the haze off when it gets warm. The only change to the picture is a polarizing filter. This winter, when air quality is usually at it's worse, was not too bad because we were abnormally damp.

    Nice - I guess they must have really cleaned things up in the past decade or so since I lived in Taiwan.



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