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Ohio high school shooting leaves 1 dead

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Ohio high school shooting leaves 1 dead


World | 208181 hits | Feb 27 8:51 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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A teenager described as a bullied outcast at his suburban Cleveland high school opened fire in the cafeteria Monday morning, killing one student and wounding four others before being caught a short distance away, authorities said.

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:16 pm
    That's 3 dead now.
    "As in previous school shootings, the gunman's demons, the missed warning signs and lax US gun laws leapt quickly to the fore.
    Students have described Lane as an "outcast" who had been bullied and said he had posted warnings on Twitter and left disturbing messages on Facebook."

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:33 pm
    Students have described Lane as an "outcast" who had been bullied


    And no one did FA about the bullying and now the response will be to identify and persecute bullied kids instead of going after the morons who think it's just swell fun to torture someone else.

  3. by avatar Brenda
    Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:39 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Students have described Lane as an "outcast" who had been bullied


    And no one did FA about the bullying and now the response will be to identify and persecute bullied kids instead of going after the morons who think it's just swell fun to torture someone else.

    He was not a student at that school. Kids were waiting there in the cafeteria for their bus to take them to a school 15 minutes away.
    Also, according to his friends, he was a quiet kid, who hardly ever spoke about his home situation. Turns out he lived with his grandparents, his father had been in jail before for attacks on his significant other (the kids mom and his gf), and was an overall nice, but quiet kid. His friends did not expect this, no one did.

  4. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:47 pm
    "Brenda" said

    He was not a student at that school.


    If you read the story you'll note that several people say that he was.

  5. by avatar Brenda
    Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:56 pm
    "BartSimpson" said

    He was not a student at that school.


    If you read the story you'll note that several people say that he was.
    I don't go about just one story. I have my TV on and follow the news. The story also says there is just one dead. There are 3.

    http://www.cleveland.com/chardon-shooti ... ngs_a.html

  6. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:42 pm
    "Brenda" said

    I don't go about just one story. I have my TV on and follow the news. The story also says there is just one dead. There are 3.

    http://www.cleveland.com/chardon-shooti ... ngs_a.html


    That story implies the kids was a student at the school...

    And several of those shot rode a bus with Lane each day and were listed as friends on his Facebook page.


    And other stories on the same site make it pretty clear that he was a student at the school.

  7. by avatar Brenda
    Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:57 pm
    Like I said, they use the school cafeteria while they wait for their bus. Apparently, the bus stop is at that school. The other school is 15 minutes away.

  8. by Thanos
    Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:08 am
    Until they actually say that the kid shot some bullies we can't put this down yet as a bullying reprisal/ victim's revenge. Columbine proved this when it came out, after the media attention disappeared, that none of the kids who were killed did any bullying at all. Kleibold and Harris were just a couple of demented and murderous assholes. It certainly wasn't a case of victims of bullies taking revenge. This kid in Ohio could easily turn out to be the same.

  9. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:23 am
    The kid did his shooting 'randomly' but reports are saying the kid was bullied and, given past history, this was his way of 'hitting back'.

    In a perverse way the logic of such shooters makes sense:

    If no one cares about the bullying then everyone is responsible for it.

    Thus an apparently 'random' shooting isn't actually all that random after all.

  10. by avatar Brenda
    Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:26 am
    "BartSimpson" said
    The kid did his shooting 'randomly' but reports are saying the kid was bullied and, given past history, this was his way of 'hitting back'.

    In a perverse way the logic of such shooters makes sense:

    If no one cares about the bullying then everyone is responsible for it.

    Thus an apparently 'random' shooting isn't actually all that random after all.

    The press conference that was given right after the indictment, and the statements of his friends, suggest the complete opposite.

    I'm sure he snapped somehow, and I am more sure he was pretty traumatized by his home situation. Something his friends say too. But from what I heard, no one could have prevented this.

  11. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:33 am
    "Thanos" said
    Kleibold and Harris were just a couple of demented and murderous assholes. It certainly wasn't a case of victims of bullies taking revenge.


    Pardon the gentle correction...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Harri ... an_Klebold

    According to early accounts of the shooting, Harris and Klebold were very unpopular students and frequent targets of bullying at their high school.


    With these two the bullying just got them started on their trip into oblivion. I agree with you that in the end they were just murderous a-holes. Still, what got them started was that they were bullied by jocks and, naturally, that was ignored by faculty because jocks get to do all sorts of crap and dismiss it as 'good fun'.

  12. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:35 am
    "Brenda" said
    But from what I heard, no one could have prevented this.


    Too bad he wasn't homeschooled.

  13. by avatar Brenda
    Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:38 am
    "BartSimpson" said
    But from what I heard, no one could have prevented this.


    Too bad he wasn't homeschooled.
    Really? Wow.
    By whom, his addicted father? His absent mother?

    I'm assuming (WILD guess from a couch/internet shrink) he would have gone to a mall and randomly shoot people. When someone snaps, they snap.

  14. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:41 am
    Well, then too bad he wasn't aborted.



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