Waiting for the Bruins fans to say that this was a perfectly legal hit, there was no intent to hurt and that a lot of players on other teams do worse and don't get suspended.
"raydan" said Waiting for the Bruins fans to say that this was a perfectly legal hit, there was no intent to hurt and that a lot of players on other teams do worse and don't get suspended.
Wait for it, 2Cdo and Pen will be by sooner or later to add their worth.
When you watch the hit a few times, it doesn't appear like Ference really even hit him, just a bit of a push. They're both just moving so fast that it was enough to send McDonagh flying. There doesn't appear intent to even make a bodycheck on Ference's part and I don't think there's any intent to injure. I'm not defending Ference. It's absolutely a penalty (5 + GM for sure) and three games seems like a reasonable suspension to me.
But this is the kind of play that hockey needs to work hardest to eliminate. Match Penalty-type attempts to injure are pretty rare in pro-hockey. Those types of plays aren't a big problem. It's plays like this, where there's potential for injury that the league needs to crackdown. Players need to understand the dangers of the game at modern speed. Players need to ease it back in situations like this where the guy you're close to is defenseless. Even the slightest contact can make for a big collision.
"Lemmy" said When you watch the hit a few times, it doesn't appear like Ference really even hit him, just a bit of a push. They're both just moving so fast that it was enough to send McDonagh flying. There doesn't appear intent to even make a bodycheck on Ference's part and I don't think there's any intent to injure. I'm not defending Ference. It's absolutely a penalty (5 + GM for sure) and three games seems like a reasonable suspension to me.
But this is the kind of play that hockey needs to work hardest to eliminate. Match Penalty-type attempts to injure are pretty rare in pro-hockey. Those types of plays aren't a big problem. It's plays like this, where there's potential for injury that the league needs to crackdown. Players need to understand the dangers of the game at modern speed. Players need to ease it back in situations like this where the guy you're close to is defenseless. Even the slightest contact can make for a big collision.
It was a Hit. I would say it's not an aggressive Hit, but given his Speed it doesn't matter whether he was being aggressive about it.
But this is the kind of play that hockey needs to work hardest to eliminate.
It has been addressed in the rewritten rule 41.1....Boarding...
41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently in the boards. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.
There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize the contact. However, in determining wheter such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.
Any unnecessary contact with a player playing the puck on an obvious “icing” or “off-side” play which results in that player hitting or impacting the boards is “boarding” and must be penalized as such. In other instances where there is no contact with the boards, it should be treated as “charging.”
Shanahan's decisions on this and other suspensions can be found here:
"Hyack" said It has been addressed in the rewritten rule 41.1....Boarding...
It's one thing to have a rule change or even a rule emphasis (which we, as officials, have every year). It's a completely different matter to have the players buy in. The larger issue is respect for your opponent and learning to check in a manner that doesn't place your target in peril. We can write rules all day long, but unless the players "get it", it's never going to improve the sport.
"Lemmy" said It's one thing to have a rule change or even a rule emphasis (which we, as officials, have every year). It's a completely different matter to have the players buy in. The larger issue is respect for your opponent and learning to check in a manner that doesn't place your target in peril. We can write rules all day long, but unless the players "get it", it's never going to improve the sport.
Maybe those that don't get it, can get out of the game... either voluntarily, or not. That or after a few suspensions, fines and loss of salary... they just may get the point.
I'd say that the fact he had no previous history for this type of thing got him a lighter sentence. Going into the boards he really didn't look at the puck till he had made contact with McDonagh. McDonagh is now listed as DTD.
"Hyack" said Waiting for the Bruins fans to say that this was a perfectly legal hit, there was no intent to hurt and that a lot of players on other teams do worse and don't get suspended.
Wait for it, 2Cdo and Pen will be by sooner or later to add their worth.
Actually I think it was a good call and personally he should know better as a defenceman.
Not quite what you thought eh.
"sandorski" said It was a Hit. I would say it's not an aggressive Hit, but given his Speed it doesn't matter whether he was being aggressive about it.
And in an earlier thread you defended Lapierre for doing the exact same thing. Typical hypocrite.
"raydan" said Waiting for the Bruins fans to say that this was a perfectly legal hit, there was no intent to hurt and that a lot of players on other teams do worse and don't get suspended.
I'll wait for Vancouver fans to call out Lapierre for the same shit, but I won't hold my breath.
I had no idea what your response would be and could honestly care less, but your 2nd comment was true to your form, trying to deflect things by bringing up Lapierre and the Canuck fans.
Waiting for the Bruins fans to say that this was a perfectly legal hit, there was no intent to hurt and that a lot of players on other teams do worse and don't get suspended.
Wait for it, 2Cdo and Pen will be by sooner or later to add their worth.
But this is the kind of play that hockey needs to work hardest to eliminate. Match Penalty-type attempts to injure are pretty rare in pro-hockey. Those types of plays aren't a big problem. It's plays like this, where there's potential for injury that the league needs to crackdown. Players need to understand the dangers of the game at modern speed. Players need to ease it back in situations like this where the guy you're close to is defenseless. Even the slightest contact can make for a big collision.
When you watch the hit a few times, it doesn't appear like Ference really even hit him, just a bit of a push. They're both just moving so fast that it was enough to send McDonagh flying. There doesn't appear intent to even make a bodycheck on Ference's part and I don't think there's any intent to injure. I'm not defending Ference. It's absolutely a penalty (5 + GM for sure) and three games seems like a reasonable suspension to me.
But this is the kind of play that hockey needs to work hardest to eliminate. Match Penalty-type attempts to injure are pretty rare in pro-hockey. Those types of plays aren't a big problem. It's plays like this, where there's potential for injury that the league needs to crackdown. Players need to understand the dangers of the game at modern speed. Players need to ease it back in situations like this where the guy you're close to is defenseless. Even the slightest contact can make for a big collision.
It was a Hit. I would say it's not an aggressive Hit, but given his Speed it doesn't matter whether he was being aggressive about it.
But this is the kind of play that hockey needs to work hardest to eliminate.
It has been addressed in the rewritten rule 41.1....Boarding...
There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize the contact. However, in determining wheter such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.
Any unnecessary contact with a player playing the puck on an obvious “icing” or “off-side” play which results in that player hitting or impacting the boards is “boarding” and must be penalized as such. In other instances where there is no contact with the boards, it should be treated as “charging.”
Shanahan's decisions on this and other suspensions can be found here:
It has been addressed in the rewritten rule 41.1....Boarding...
It's one thing to have a rule change or even a rule emphasis (which we, as officials, have every year). It's a completely different matter to have the players buy in. The larger issue is respect for your opponent and learning to check in a manner that doesn't place your target in peril. We can write rules all day long, but unless the players "get it", it's never going to improve the sport.
It's one thing to have a rule change or even a rule emphasis (which we, as officials, have every year). It's a completely different matter to have the players buy in. The larger issue is respect for your opponent and learning to check in a manner that doesn't place your target in peril. We can write rules all day long, but unless the players "get it", it's never going to improve the sport.
Maybe those that don't get it, can get out of the game... either voluntarily, or not.
That or after a few suspensions, fines and loss of salary... they just may get the point.
Waiting for the Bruins fans to say that this was a perfectly legal hit, there was no intent to hurt and that a lot of players on other teams do worse and don't get suspended.
Wait for it, 2Cdo and Pen will be by sooner or later to add their worth.
Actually I think it was a good call and personally he should know better as a defenceman.
Not quite what you thought eh.
It was a Hit. I would say it's not an aggressive Hit, but given his Speed it doesn't matter whether he was being aggressive about it.
And in an earlier thread you defended Lapierre for doing the exact same thing. Typical hypocrite.
Waiting for the Bruins fans to say that this was a perfectly legal hit, there was no intent to hurt and that a lot of players on other teams do worse and don't get suspended.
I'll wait for Vancouver fans to call out Lapierre for the same shit, but I won't hold my breath.
Not quite what you thought eh.
I had no idea what your response would be and could honestly care less, but your 2nd comment was true to your form, trying to deflect things by bringing up Lapierre and the Canuck fans.
And in an earlier thread you defended Lapierre for doing the exact same thing. Typical hypocrite.
When Lapierre does it, it was just a "push".