 Harper government proposes tougher language rules for immigrants OTTAWA — The Harper government is proposing changes to the Canadian citizenship process that would force immigrants to prove their proficiency in English or French before being able to write an exam and be considered for acceptance into Canada.Commentsview comments in forum You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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Simply put, the system IS broke, so lots needs to be done.
This would be only a small step.
Berger said immigration officials' claim that the current test is not adequate for assessing listening and speaking skills is irrelevant, as applicants have the option to listen to the citizenship guide on the ministry's website.
"That would be a measure of your listening abilities," he said.
David Matas, a Winnipeg-based immigration lawyer, said the new rules make application processing easier for the federal government, while making the application more cumbersome for immigrants.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/ ... /index.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/ ... stions.asp
That looks pretty freaking hard to me and English is my first language.
Looked a bit further and the current test fails about 20% of those that take it (they made it easier as the first revision had a 30% failure rate), the ones that fail then go through a citizenship judge who determines if they know enough (and obviously they would have to speak English/french to answer) and 20% fail that as well.
How many immigrants do you know that speak English well versus the number that can't?
"That would be a measure of your listening abilities," he said.
David Matas, a Winnipeg-based immigration lawyer, said the new rules make application processing easier for the federal government, while making the application more cumbersome for immigrants.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/ ... /index.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/ ... stions.asp
Memorizing answers has nothing to do with your ability to speak English or French.
-J.
Speak English or French and show tits or GTFO!
Berger said immigration officials' claim that the current test is not adequate for assessing listening and speaking skills is irrelevant, as applicants have the option to listen to the citizenship guide on the ministry's website.
"That would be a measure of your listening abilities," he said.
David Matas, a Winnipeg-based immigration lawyer, said the new rules make application processing easier for the federal government, while making the application more cumbersome for immigrants.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/ ... /index.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/ ... stions.asp
That looks pretty freaking hard to me and English is my first language.
Looked a bit further and the current test fails about 20% of those that take it (they made it easier as the first revision had a 30% failure rate), the ones that fail then go through a citizenship judge who determines if they know enough (and obviously they would have to speak English/french to answer) and 20% fail that as well.
How many immigrants do you know that speak English well versus the number that can't?
The personal chat with an immigration judge is a thing of the past. I got sworn in with about 800 others 10 years ago in a mass ceremony. No chat.
The 'test' was a joke and took me about 4 minutes to complete. It was fun watching the rest who were being 'tested' openly cheat and get help from friends and family without any body enforcing the rules.
We just need to be better at screening. Personally I don't think we should just look at the US/UK etc. We should look globally but we also really need to up the bar.
If somebody really wants to come to Canada they can prove it by learning English or French.
Not being able to communicate properly is a poor start to life in Canada yet we have turned a blind-eye to this very basic qualification for decades.
If somebody really wants to come to Canada they can prove it by learning English or French.
Or they can pay their money and come in a rusty old tramp steamer and claim refugee status when they land in Victoria. Canada will then drop all barriers and welcome them with open arms.
I think Canada needs to put Canada first. We should be letting people in who will add to the country, not take from it. We shouldn't be changing to 'accommodate' newcomers, they should be doing the changing.