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Suzuki charity under fire over Liberal ties

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Suzuki charity under fire over Liberal ties


Misc CDN | 206735 hits | Sep 20 10:01 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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The David Suzuki Foundation overstepped its legal bounds as a charity after its famous founder endorsed Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty's green energy plan in a video, critics have charged.

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  1. by Anonymous
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:32 am
    "If David Suzuki wants be a political activist, that's what he should do, and not call himself a charity,"


    What a crock.

    "The David Suzuki Foundation" said
    About us
    We work with government, business and individuals to conserve our environment by providing science-based education, advocacy and policy work, and acting as a catalyst for the social change that today's situation demands.


    Imagine that, an environmentalist applauding a plan to shut down coal burning power plants.

  2. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:43 am
    "Curtman" said
    "If David Suzuki wants be a political activist, that's what he should do, and not call himself a charity,"


    What a crock.

    [quote="The David Suzuki Foundation":225tyr4a]About us
    We work with government, business and individuals to conserve our environment by providing science-based education, advocacy and policy work, and acting as a catalyst for the social change that today's situation demands.


    Imagine that, an environmentalist applauding a plan to shut down coal burning power plants.

    According to the Canada Revenue Agency website, registered charities "cannot be involved in partisan political activities," including "attempts to sway public opinion on social issues." The breaking of such rules could mean reprimands such as mandatory education around CRA regulations, fines or a revocation of charity status, said CRA spokesman Philippe Brideau.

  3. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:46 am
    "Curtman" said
    "If David Suzuki wants be a political activist, that's what he should do, and not call himself a charity,"


    What a crock.

    [quote="The David Suzuki Foundation":8v9ri9gz]About us
    We work with government, business and individuals to conserve our environment by providing science-based education, advocacy and policy work, and acting as a catalyst for the social change that today's situation demands.


    Imagine that, an environmentalist applauding a plan to shut down coal burning power plants.
    What would be even more amazing is if the environmentalists had a viable alternative to fossil fuel powered plants instead of just bitching about their existence.

  4. by Anonymous
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:04 am
    "PublicAnimalNo9" said
    What would be even more amazing is if the environmentalists had a viable alternative to fossil fuel powered plants instead of just bitching about their existence.


    "The David Suzuki Foundation" said
    The Government of Canada is giving the fossil fuel sector $1.4 billion dollars per year in subsidies, $840 million of which is in the form of special tax breaks. Phasing out these subsidies would provide a number of benefits. First, analysis by the International Institute for Sustainable Development (IISD) shows that carbon pollution from the tar sands would be 12 per cent lower if the industry were not subsidized and expanding at such a rapid rate. This would also help level the playing field of Canada's energy market. Canada has not embarked on the transition to cleaner energy sources as quickly as many other nations.


    From the "Wind Concerns Ontario" website:

    VOW© is a non-profit support group for victims experiencing adverse health effects from wind turbines.


    ROTFL

    Who's just bitching about what's existence?

  5. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:19 am
    "Curtman" said
    What would be even more amazing is if the environmentalists had a viable alternative to fossil fuel powered plants instead of just bitching about their existence.


    "The David Suzuki Foundation" said
    The Government of Canada is giving the fossil fuel sector $1.4 billion dollars per year in subsidies, $840 million of which is in the form of special tax breaks. Phasing out these subsidies would provide a number of benefits. First, analysis by the International Institute for Sustainable Development (IISD) shows that carbon pollution from the tar sands would be 12 per cent lower if the industry were not subsidized and expanding at such a rapid rate. This would also help level the playing field of Canada's energy market. Canada has not embarked on the transition to cleaner energy sources as quickly as many other nations.


    From the "Wind Concerns Ontario" website:

    VOW© is a non-profit support group for victims experiencing adverse health effects from wind turbines.


    ROTFL

    Who's just bitching about what's existence?
    Again, no viable solution, just hyperbole. I wonder how many other northern/arctic nations have made wholesale switches to solar and wind.
    Much of Europe has invested heavily in green energy but some countries within Europe are starting to figure out that green energy can be economically destructive.
    Reports out of Denmark, Spain and Italy all show that renewable energy costs jobs in other sectors in large part because electrical energy costs must increase to support those subsidies. In Spain the report indicated that 2.2 jobs were lost for each “green” job that was created.

    In Ontario, the subsidy that goes to solar generators is 44-80cents/KWh. That's an outrageous amount for a technology that isn't all that viable for several months out of the year and only produces a fraction of the power output as traditional power methods.
    The truly sad part is, the Ontario gov't among others, is looking for ways to keep people on the grid instead of investing in solar technology that's affordable to the average home owner to enable them to install their own solar cells and be able to enjoy periods of time off the grid.

  6. by Anonymous
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:28 pm
    "PublicAnimalNo9" said
    Again, no viable solution, just hyperbole.



    Ontario is at the forefront of wind energy in Canada, with more than 1,300 MW of wind generation capacity operating in the province.


    Wrong.

  7. by avatar QBall
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:21 pm
    "Curtman" said
    Again, no viable solution, just hyperbole.



    Ontario is at the forefront of wind energy in Canada, with more than 1,300 MW of wind generation capacity operating in the province.


    Wrong.

    http://www.opg.com/power/nuclear/darlington/

    The Darlington Nuclear Generating Station is Ontario Power Generation's newest CANDU (CANadian Deuterium Uranium) nuclear generating station. It is a 4-unit station with a total output of 3,512 megawatts (MW) and is located in the Municipality of Clarington in Durham Region, 70 km east of Toronto. It provides about 20 per cent of Ontario's electricity needs, enough to serve a city of two million people.


    THAT is a solution. That 1,300 MW quoted can never be achieved as you'll never get all wind turbines going full tilt at the same time unless a hurricane comes through the province. The 3,512 MW can be achieved by having all four reactors going. Even if you could somehow magically get 1,300 MW going that represents 7.5% of the provinces power needs taken care of.

  8. by avatar mentalfloss
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:09 pm
    "QBall" said
    THAT is a solution. That 1,300 MW quoted can never be achieved as you'll never get all wind turbines going full tilt at the same time unless a hurricane comes through the province. The 3,512 MW can be achieved by having all four reactors going. Even if you could somehow magically get 1,300 MW going that represents 7.5% of the provinces power needs taken care of.


    Non-renewable. Dangerous.

    Good for the short term, but we should develop nuclear stuff on an emergency basis.

  9. by avatar bootlegga
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:21 pm
    "Curtman" said
    [quote="The David Suzuki Foundation":1fm1hoqt]About us
    We work with government, business and individuals to conserve our environment by providing science-based education, advocacy and policy work, and acting as a catalyst for the social change that today's situation demands.


    Imagine that, an environmentalist applauding a plan to shut down coal burning power plants.

    Good point.

  10. by avatar bootlegga
    Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:27 pm
    "QBall" said
    Again, no viable solution, just hyperbole.



    Ontario is at the forefront of wind energy in Canada, with more than 1,300 MW of wind generation capacity operating in the province.


    Wrong.

    http://www.opg.com/power/nuclear/darlington/

    The Darlington Nuclear Generating Station is Ontario Power Generation's newest CANDU (CANadian Deuterium Uranium) nuclear generating station. It is a 4-unit station with a total output of 3,512 megawatts (MW) and is located in the Municipality of Clarington in Durham Region, 70 km east of Toronto. It provides about 20 per cent of Ontario's electricity needs, enough to serve a city of two million people.


    THAT is a solution. That 1,300 MW quoted can never be achieved as you'll never get all wind turbines going full tilt at the same time unless a hurricane comes through the province. The 3,512 MW can be achieved by having all four reactors going. Even if you could somehow magically get 1,300 MW going that represents 7.5% of the provinces power needs taken care of.

    Nuclear is fine, but what happens with the waste, that usually has a half-life of thousands of years?

    The key to using renewable energy like solar/wind is to use it to charge batteries so that the power can be used when needed. An American entrepeneur (Paul Getty I think) suggested last year that the best way to use renewables like solar and wind is to use it to convert water to hydrogen, which can later be used to fuel all sorts of things (power plants, vehicles, etc). Of course, that means upgrading all sorts of infrastructure, but there's no reason not to start now, instead of waiting until oil is $200 a barrel.

    There are plenty of ways for Canadians to shift over to green energy sources, and while we may not be able to rely on it 24/7, IMHO it is better to use some renewable energy instead of relying almost solely on coal and oil.

  11. by avatar QBall
    Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:15 pm
    "bootlegga" said
    Nuclear is fine, but what happens with the waste, that usually has a half-life of thousands of years?


    I have faith in someone to engineer a solution, asuming it hasn't already been solved. Let's have a glimpse at what wind power is going to cost the health system, the legal system and taxpayers in general in the future:

    Family sues wind farm alleging health damage, falling property value

    http://www.thestar.com/business/compani ... erty-value

  12. by Anonymous
    Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:27 pm
    "QBall" said
    Family sues wind farm alleging health damage, falling property value

    http://www.thestar.com/business/compani ... erty-value


    The closest turbine is 1.1 kilometre away, but the Michauds say a “tunnel effect” from the row of turbines stretching into the distance compounds the impact on their property.
    ...
    Michel Michaud says the turbines also affect his ability to concentrate, causing him to make mistakes at work.


    The wind turbines caused the HIV epidemic too!

    ROTFL

  13. by eureka
    Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:03 pm
    The problem with your information, P.A. is that, once again, it comes only from denial blogs and is untrue.

    That Spanish "study" has been thoroughly debunked by many reputable "debunkers." Among them the Spanish government and American Department of Energy. It was done by an economics professor and funded by the American Energy Institute - not exactly an impartial financier.

    The reality is that, according to calculations by the government of Spain, 175,000 jobs had been created by renewable energy activities and that many more were in the pipeline.

    Denialist blogs are not source for accurate or unbiased information.

  14. by FieryVulpine
    Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:34 pm
    I wish nuclear fusion was viable enough for commercial use. Now that would be progress.



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