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Canadian Rangers to carry Winchesters after 60

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Canadian Rangers to carry Winchesters after 60 years of bearing Enfield rifles


Military | 207397 hits | Aug 02 8:55 am | Posted by: Scape
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After more than 60 years of carrying the venerable Lee Enfield rifle, those who form Canada’s first line of defence in the Arctic are getting new guns.

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  1. by Neil Korchinski
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:03 pm
    So they told us the calibre, but they didn't tell us which rifle. Is it the FN?

  2. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:25 pm
    "Neil Korchinski" said
    So they told us the calibre, but they didn't tell us which rifle. Is it the FN?


    I'd guess the model 70. Rangers require bolt action rifles.

  3. by avatar 1Peg
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:09 pm
    Neil, I believe it is the FN.

  4. by avatar QBall
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:19 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    [quote="Neil Korchinski":1hs6ab1c]So they told us the calibre, but they didn't tell us which rifle. Is it the FN?


    I'd guess the model 70. Rangers require bolt action rifles.

    Why do they require bolt action?

  5. by avatar SprCForr  Gold Member
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:29 pm
    It'll be a bolt action. The Winchester in the article refers to the calibre of the round. The bonus with using a .308 rifle is they can draw from the 7.62 NATO stocks.

  6. by avatar SprCForr  Gold Member
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:30 pm
    "QBall" said

    Why do they require bolt action?


    Reliability and durability in extreme environmental conditions.

  7. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:33 pm
    "SprCForr" said

    Why do they require bolt action?


    Reliability and durability in extreme environmental conditions.

    That and some politician probably wet himself at the thought of these guys running around with ugly looking black guns with big magazines so they ended up going with 1860's technology for the challenges of the 21st Century.

  8. by Canadian_Mind
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:26 pm
    "BartSimpson" said

    Why do they require bolt action?


    Reliability and durability in extreme environmental conditions.

    That and some politician probably wet himself at the thought of these guys running around with ugly looking black guns with big magazines so they ended up going with 1860's technology for the challenges of the 21st Century.

    Sometimes reliability is more important. That, and hopefully the rifles would have a longer range than C-7s. 300 meters isn't long range up in the arctic.

  9. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:46 pm
    "Canadian_Mind" said

    Sometimes reliability is more important. That, and hopefully the rifles would have a longer range than C-7s. 300 meters isn't long range up in the arctic.


    Geez, you guys aren't using teflon lubricants yet? Unless it gets down to -200C you don't have any problems with your action. And if it does get down to -200C you've got bigger problems than just trying to get your weapon working.

  10. by Canadian_Mind
    Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:51 am
    "BartSimpson" said

    Sometimes reliability is more important. That, and hopefully the rifles would have a longer range than C-7s. 300 meters isn't long range up in the arctic.


    Geez, you guys aren't using teflon lubricants yet? Unless it gets down to -200C you don't have any problems with your action. And if it does get down to -200C you've got bigger problems than just trying to get your weapon working.

    I have no clue whats in the lubricant we use. But I've had the weapon gum up on me in -40 in the middle of Ontario, nevermind -60 or lower in the arctic.

  11. by avatar SprCForr  Gold Member
    Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:26 am
    Dry all the oil and use graphite powder as lube. Clean it using Breakfree, but you have to get it all off.

  12. by Canadian_Mind
    Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:39 am
    "SprCForr" said
    Dry all the oil and use graphite powder as lube. Clean it using Breakfree, but you have to get it all off.


    Tried doing that overseas. SSM quickly put a stop to that by charging anyone who lubed their weapon with graphite instead of CLP. XD

  13. by avatar SprCForr  Gold Member
    Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:30 pm
    Was there a particular reason why? Hell, the SSM would charge us if you use it during winter warfare.

  14. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:53 pm
    "SprCForr" said
    Dry all the oil and use graphite powder as lube. Clean it using Breakfree, but you have to get it all off.


    Wot? In my last go round we were using some sort of teflon crap in a black spray can with one of those little swizzle stick spray heads. Pretty wicked stuff. We were spraying that crap all over everything! Put in on the 25 turret and you could shut off the motor and turn it by hand pretty easy. I'm surprised the CF hasn't picked it up.



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