Here they go again

That's going to put a lot of Newf's out of work and bring a good hit to Quebec social programs.

Didn't the Cap and Trade exchange close last summer because of the lack of business?

It's not like he has to worry about losing votes in Alberta, he won't win much out West anyways.

No doubt - the sheeple out here will continue to vote for the Conservatives no matter how much Harper gives Quebec and Ontario and how little he gives the West.



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Ah, the East vs. West penis-envy contest...it's been a while.

It's not penis envy - it's fact that Alberta pays more out in transfer payments than it gets, yet when it comes to pork, the majority of it goes to Ontario and Quebec.

Now if the Liberals or the Dippers were in office, it'd be business as usual. However, Harper and Co were supposed to fulfill the "west wants in" motto, and instead have done exactly the same as every other political party - fed pork hand over fist to central Canada while screwing over the West. Of course, for the Conservatives it doesn't matter, because the sheeple out here can only remember what happened during the past 30 minutes (except for the NEP of course - that will never be forgotten ).

Harper's just lucky that the Liberals have never been smart enough to create programs to bribe votes from underneath him.

Honestly, I laugh my ass off every time Harper screws over the West - after all, you get the government you elect and the West always votes Conservative Blue no matter what Harper says or does.

The West does quite well, hence the lack of Federal transfers.

Alberta has gotten equlaization payments before, let's not forget...and Ontario was the only province to have never gotten the payments until 2009-2010.

Quebec perhaps but not Ontario. We were only barely a recipient last year I believe and that was a few hundred million. The caveat there was we paid billions into the program. Ontario has always been a payer rather then a recipient. Agreed on the rest of your post though.

This would ALL change , by some miracle, the libs got in. Check out page 46 of their platform.

Christ, I thought all this carbon stuff had died down for a while. If you want to do anything, add a carbon tax. But don't do it like BC, where coal shipped to China is exempt, but coal sold locally isn't. So assuming we had a coal using manufacturing industry here, what Campbell was saying is let's subsidize the competition and penalize the home industry. If the US adopts a carbon scheme, we'll probably have to follow them, but otherwise we should just leave it alone right now.

Quebec perhaps but not Ontario. We were only barely a recipient last year I believe and that was a few hundred million. The caveat there was we paid billions into the program. Ontario has always been a payer rather then a recipient. Agreed on the rest of your post though.

It's not just equalization Derby, it's everything else too (like political pork).

Toronto is getting almost a billion for the Pan-Am games, yet the Conservatives refused to give a penny for Edmonton to host Expo 2017. Harper and Co. have shovelled hundreds of millions (see above) into provinces/ridings where they want new seats, yet refuse to spend even close to that in their 'base' (AKA the West).

That's my point - Harper's motives are no better than Iggy's. At least Iggy is honest about his bias towards central Canada.

This would ALL change , by some miracle, the libs got in. Check out page 46 of their platform.

At least Iggy is up front and honest about his central Canada bias - Harper sure isn't.

I don't see where Iggy has openly stated a bias for central Canada. I think Alberta has pretty much dictated a policy of bias for them.

While I agree mostly with you I find it very hard to be sympathetic (except for guys like you! ) for Alberta when it takes this attitude.

Hell its not even that they hate the Liberals, its that they won't vote anything else but conservatives. They don't alternate between the NDP & The CPC. Hell I don't think they even alternated between the PC and Reform/Alliance.

Quebec perhaps but not Ontario. We were only barely a recipient last year I believe and that was a few hundred million. The caveat there was we paid billions into the program. Ontario has always been a payer rather then a recipient. Agreed on the rest of your post though.

It's not just equalization Derby, it's everything else too (like political pork).

Toronto is getting almost a billion for the Pan-Am games, yet the Conservatives refused to give a penny for Edmonton to host Expo 2017. Harper and Co. have shovelled hundreds of millions (see above) into provinces/ridings where they want new seats, yet refuse to spend even close to that in their 'base' (AKA the West).

That's my point - Harper's motives are no better than Iggy's. At least Iggy is honest about his bias towards central Canada.


Are we forgetting the 1.2+ billion for the Olympics?

Are we forgetting the 1.2+ billion for the Olympics?

Nope, just like I'm not forgetting the $1 billion for Toronto to host the G-20, $1 billion or so for the 2015 Pan-Am Games (Toronto again), or the $2.2 billion promised to Quebec for the HST, or any of the other mega pork deals Harper and Co. dropped across eastern and central Canada prior to the start of this election. Once you add everything up, the pork given to everyone else is far more than what Harper gives to his own constituents.

Like I said, the people of Edmonton and Calgary have no right to complain when Harper screws them over - they keep returning them to power all the time with out even considering the sweet deals he's offering to everyone else.

For all the comments by the right wingers here about Torontoians (and other urbanites) being sheeple for voting Lib/NDP, the people of the West (Alberta and Saksatchewan especially) are sheeple in their own right.

The only difference is which box they check on their ballot.