Who pays for Grit spending programs?

I have no problems with such a proposal, but I know the almighty dollar will triumph over "poor and greedy" common folk.

This is a great platform!

Not bad, but the stock option cap is too low, that would drive many out of the country. Something where you could only deduct 25-50% of your gross yearly income would be more fair across the line, so someone who makes 200 000 and deducts 50 000 for stocks would have the same ratio of deduction as someone making 500 000 and deducting 125 000.

frankly, income taxes should be scaled the same way. One equal percentage across the board, with deductions or exemptions for certain special groups (low income, single parent families, families in general, workers of hazardous public services, etc)

You'd better not let the NDP hear you talking about a flat tax, or they'll revoke your membership. A progessive taxation system is dear to their heart, as it is to anybody who thinks those that earn the most should pay the most.

Suppose family A makes 40,000 a year, family B makes 100,000. Under a flat tax of say 35% (fed and prov) family A now lives on 26,000 while family B lives on 65,000. The family with 65,000 still makes a good living, but how about that poor family?

Suppose family A makes 40,000 a year, family B makes 100,000. Under a flat tax of say 35% (fed and prov) family A now lives on 26,000 while family B lives on 65,000. The family with 65,000 still makes a good living, but how about that poor family?
A flat tax taxes only after a certain earning. Let's say it's 16,000$. The low income family at 26,000$ will only pay 35% on the 10,000$ over. They will have 22,500$ of net income.

It's not a bad platform but a lot of people are already balking at the numbers.

Just because you increase corporate taxes up to their former levels it doesn't necessarily mean that those increases will translate in to the amounts that the Liberals are claiming they will. Add to that the Liberal’s child care program which obviously hasn’t been costed properly.

And where did I hear that before from a Liberal?

Oh yeah, Chretien.



So no more GST now becomes no more Taxes and we wait with bated breath to hear from Iggy about how his statement was taken out of context and he really meant to say that they won't be any new taxes on families just the old taxes at much higher rates.

When did Ignatieff say that? I never heard Ignatieff talk about abolishing GST. Chrétien talked about getting rid of it, but intended to replace the GST with a VAT (Value Added Tax). The British VAT is practically the same as the GST. Liberal Finance Minister Paul Martin said that's just a change of name, so rejected it. Paul Martin chose to leave it alone rather than try to deceive anyone with such a thin excuse. Liberals believe in open debate, and that debate results in honest deals with the public. Jean Chrétien did a lot of things right, but he needed his team when he slipped on this one item. In the end Liberals as a Party were honest. And this demonstrates that Chrétien's choice of Paul Martin as Finance Minister was a good one. But again, when did Ignatieff ever say anything about getting rid of the GST?

Honest?

The party that got voted in on a lie (GST) and voted out due to a spending scandal.

That's honesty for ya.

Honest?

The party that got voted in on a lie (GST) and voted out due to a spending scandal.

That's honesty for ya.
Any Harper got voted in on hundreds of them, still waiting for him to live up to one.

When did Ignatieff say that? I never heard Ignatieff talk about abolishing GST. Chrétien talked about getting rid of it, but intended to replace the GST with a VAT (Value Added Tax). The British VAT is practically the same as the GST. Liberal Finance Minister Paul Martin said that's just a change of name, so rejected it. Paul Martin chose to leave it alone rather than try to deceive anyone with such a thin excuse. Liberals believe in open debate, and that debate results in honest deals with the public. Jean Chrétien did a lot of things right, but he needed his team when he slipped on this one item. In the end Liberals as a Party were honest. And this demonstrates that Chrétien's choice of Paul Martin as Finance Minister was a good one. But again, when did Ignatieff ever say anything about getting rid of the GST?

I never said Ignateff said no more GST, I was talking about his election rhetoric and where I had heard the same type of thing before and then I stated the example.

While not exlcusively a Liberal phenomenom, this type of electioneering seems to be what they're masters at, going back to Trudeau and the gas tax and I was pointing that fact out.

But unfortunately, it's become an all to common a political thing to promise the world and then if you get elected disavow any knowledge of ever saying it or say it was taken out of context but at least Harper appears to be adding the caveat about the balanced budget which in some measure covers his ass.

So like I said, I'm waiting for Iggy who, if he happened to get elected to say:

A: I was misquoted about the taxes or;
B: I never said that;

So hopefully this clears up what I was trying to say.

Be nice if Ignatz could have at least included the amount of revenues from these new taxes that would end up in hidden Liberal slush funds and unreported/unaudited accounts. And the amount that'll end up as cash in paper bags being passed back'n'forth over cafe tables in Montreal.

Chretien's long gone but the Libs are definitely the same old same old.

I’m interested in how they came up with the total for the their child care program. $500 million for the first year, 1 billion in the 4th year.

What are they going do to for 500 million? That’s nothing. Hell the current program, the $100 /month implemented by the conservatives costs 2.5 billion a year and the Liberals have said that isn’t enough. What if any kind of meaningful program are you going to be able to implement for the amounts they‘re stating?