The Conservatives have a strong lead with 39 per cent support ahead of a possible spring election, according to a new poll, despite the opposition parties hammering away at the Tories on ethics issues.
Pollster Nik Nanos said the results suggest that if an election were held today, "Canadians could spend $300 million… and we still have a very similar outcome" to the 2008 vote.
Oh, well, if we've gotta, we've gotta. Let's get it over with then. Having a very similar outcome to 2008 seems like the best outcome currently available anyway.
The polls are not good for any party, they are going to call an election and there is no money so it's unlikely that any issue will come up that will say voters. Something can happen at any time and often does but we are going to have an election with very much the same result as last time.
As Deifenbaker once said " Dogs have the right attitude towards polls. " As an attorney general once told me "The only poll that counts is one done in the last four days of the campaign."
At least it would keep them quiet for a year or two unless something drastic changes. The Reformacons want an election based on the budget and hope it would stall the contempt of parliament problems they are having. The opposition would love to go to an election on corruption and contempt of parliament, but that's not getting much traction with voters.
We don't need it - they do. As I said, the Reformacons want an election too, to move attention away from the corruption and lying they've been found out about. Today for the first time in history, a government was found to be in contempt of parliament.
"Brent Swain" said As Deifenbaker once said " Dogs have the right attitude towards polls. " As an attorney general once told me "The only poll that counts is one done in the last four days of the campaign."
Except that we have been in pre-election mode for a couple of years and the polls have not particularly changed. And as I posted with a deficit it's unlikely an issue will come up. Still I want to see them punch each other out.
"kenmore" said lol... still no majority for the king
I don't really want any party to have a majority at the moment, but I felt compelled to point out that numerable parties in the history of Canada have managed a majority with less than or around 39% of the popular vote. Indeed, 39% is above one majority, and only 1-2% underneath the other two majorities won by Cretien, all of which were massive majorities.
MacDonald, MacKenzie and Mackenzie King all also had majorities within the range of 39% of the popular vote. With a range of 2.8 percentage points for error in this poll, it also brings the study within range of numerable other majorities -- including one of Trudeau's, and the other two of Cretien's.
In the end, the only poll that truly matters is the one on election day. However, don't assume that anything less than 50% is not in the majority neighbourhood -- only four prime ministers over our history have managed to break the 50% barrier, and never by much.
"andyt" said At least it would keep them quiet for a year or two unless something drastic changes. The Reformacons want an election based on the budget and hope it would stall the contempt of parliament problems they are having. The opposition would love to go to an election on corruption and contempt of parliament, but that's not getting much traction with voters.
Is it really necessary to use such childish names... what are 'reformacons' anyway? How many of the old Reform Party are left in the CPC, not many, in fact after Day et al leave, maybe 5... Besides the CPC is more red Tory than anything so that old saw means didley squat.
Voters don't foam at the mouth over faux 'scandals', there are more important issues than Kenney's aid using the wrong letterhead, or the opposition not getting their numbers fast enough for them.
If we have this election, it'll be less about changing the status quo in Ottawa, and more about Iggy's leadership aspirations.
If Count Dracula blows this one, he'll be on his way back to Harvard faster than a teflon turd goes down a 12 litre per flush toilet and the Liberal Party will be back to looking for another suitable replacement for Chretien.
Unfortunately given the little Trudeau's recent spate of foot in mouth disease I really don't think it'll be him. And, since the Party can't win with a middle of the road candidate so to speak, look for some dark horse contenteder who holds extreme left wing views to emerge as the next pretender to the throne.
A few names come to mind. Maybe Bob Rae, Ujjal Dosanjh, or as a longshot one of their star MP's............... Hedy Fry.
Redhatmamma, it's interesting to hear the Reform Party element is gone, I don't follow Parliament that closely. Harper suppressed all the mavericks in the Party but I'm reminded that any leader has to do that.
The "Contempt of Parliament" problem may not be a as deep an issue as it sounds. However I would suggest it's symptomatic. Pundits have been reporting matter of factly that CPC Cabinet ministers are not allowed to argue with Harper, that he is Teutonic. It'll eventually cause problems. Just right now these scandals around his control are compromising his shot at a majority, shaving some votes off.
Unfortunately given the little Trudeau's recent spate of foot in mouth disease I really don't think it'll be him. And, since the Party can't win with a middle of the road candidate so to speak, look for some dark horse contenteder who holds extreme left wing views to emerge as the next pretender to the throne.
A friend of mine is of the opinion former N & L Premier Danny Williams has the stuff. A fighter, someone to trust.
Oh, well, if we've gotta, we've gotta. Let's get it over with then. Having a very similar outcome to 2008 seems like the best outcome currently available anyway.
As an attorney general once told me "The only poll that counts is one done in the last four days of the campaign."
Didnt think so!!
As Deifenbaker once said " Dogs have the right attitude towards polls. "
As an attorney general once told me "The only poll that counts is one done in the last four days of the campaign."
Except that we have been in pre-election mode for a couple of years and the polls have not particularly changed. And as I posted with a deficit it's unlikely an issue will come up. Still I want to see them punch each other out.
lol... still no majority for the king
I don't really want any party to have a majority at the moment, but I felt compelled to point out that numerable parties in the history of Canada have managed a majority with less than or around 39% of the popular vote. Indeed, 39% is above one majority, and only 1-2% underneath the other two majorities won by Cretien, all of which were massive majorities.
MacDonald, MacKenzie and Mackenzie King all also had majorities within the range of 39% of the popular vote. With a range of 2.8 percentage points for error in this poll, it also brings the study within range of numerable other majorities -- including one of Trudeau's, and the other two of Cretien's.
In the end, the only poll that truly matters is the one on election day. However, don't assume that anything less than 50% is not in the majority neighbourhood -- only four prime ministers over our history have managed to break the 50% barrier, and never by much.
At least it would keep them quiet for a year or two unless something drastic changes. The Reformacons want an election based on the budget and hope it would stall the contempt of parliament problems they are having. The opposition would love to go to an election on corruption and contempt of parliament, but that's not getting much traction with voters.
Is it really necessary to use such childish names... what are 'reformacons' anyway? How many of the old Reform Party are left in the CPC, not many, in fact after Day et al leave, maybe 5... Besides the CPC is more red Tory than anything so that old saw means didley squat.
Voters don't foam at the mouth over faux 'scandals', there are more important issues than Kenney's aid using the wrong letterhead, or the opposition not getting their numbers fast enough for them.
If Count Dracula blows this one, he'll be on his way back to Harvard faster than a teflon turd goes down a 12 litre per flush toilet and the Liberal Party will be back to looking for another suitable replacement for Chretien.
Unfortunately given the little Trudeau's recent spate of foot in mouth disease I really don't think it'll be him. And, since the Party can't win with a middle of the road candidate so to speak, look for some dark horse contenteder who holds extreme left wing views to emerge as the next pretender to the throne.
A few names come to mind. Maybe Bob Rae, Ujjal Dosanjh, or as a longshot one of their star MP's............... Hedy Fry.
(Edited for spelling..................again)
The "Contempt of Parliament" problem may not be a as deep an issue as it sounds. However I would suggest it's symptomatic. Pundits have been reporting matter of factly that CPC Cabinet ministers are not allowed to argue with Harper, that he is Teutonic. It'll eventually cause problems. Just right now these scandals around his control are compromising his shot at a majority, shaving some votes off.
Unfortunately given the little Trudeau's recent spate of foot in mouth disease I really don't think it'll be him. And, since the Party can't win with a middle of the road candidate so to speak, look for some dark horse contenteder who holds extreme left wing views to emerge as the next pretender to the throne.
A friend of mine is of the opinion former N & L Premier Danny Williams has the stuff. A fighter, someone to trust.