Canada, U.K. won't collaborate on warships

Good move. We need Canadian-specific ships, not compromizes. Plus, we will stimulate a home-grown industry.

Allow me to translate this into :

The compromise would have benefited the UK a lot more than Canada.

The compromise would have benefited the UK a lot more than Canada.
That's usually how it works when somebody decides to collaborate on a military design with us.

And why would we compromise, little own work with, the same people who sold us those sterling monuments to technical achievement, the Upholder Class Submarines??????

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, or as an old Cheif Cook once said to me:

"Fuck em, let em eat fish".

Good. The crews of the Victoria class submarines are jumping with joy.

And then turn around and sell us shit they wouldn't lower themselves to use as fishing trawlers.

Not the same at all really. Those boats had been tied up for 8 years. You guys under Chretien decided they would be a good deal to be thrown in with rent for CFB Goose Bay, BATUS Suffield etc.

Maritime Command had to deal with a political decision to take boats the Brits didn't want that had been rusting away for a few years.

Don't blame the Brits for Chretien's bad decision. Blame yourselves.

you get what you pay for, and that purchase already cost the life of one man. This was the result of having a penny wise pound foolish outlook.

If the Brits wanna share development costs, the can buy what we design & build.

Or pay us to make a another frigate version on the planned stock hull that suits their needs.

Not the same at all really. Those boats had been tied up for 8 years. You guys under Chretien decided they would be a good deal to be thrown in with rent for CFB Goose Bay, BATUS Suffield etc.

Maritime Command had to deal with a political decision to take boats the Brits didn't want that had been rusting away for a few years.

Don't blame the Brits for Chretien's bad decision. Blame yourselves.


Given that logic, every used car dealer in Canada is a Saint and never knowingly sold a lemon to an unsuspecting customer.

Yes we were idiots for buying them without really checking them out, especially after 8 years in black squadron, but hey, I suppose we never thought we'd get taken by our mother country.

So I guess you live and learn, and we learned not to trust what Brits say when it comes to "good used vessels" and so now that distrust is being carried over to other shipbuilding ventures.

I think you have it wrong FOG. Chretien went looking for cheap solutions for the CF's procurement problems in that decade of darknesss.

I don't think the the UK's MOD went banging on doors to sell these boats. The Canadian PM of the time made this deal.

Really, who would buy boats that had been moored for 8 years?

Misplaced anger mate. Redirect to the Chretien government.

Exactly. You can't buy from a scrap yard and complain later you didn't know it was a junker.