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Pope's child porn ‘normal' claim sparks outrage

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Pope's child porn ‘normal' claim sparks outrage among victims


World | 207101 hits | Dec 24 12:41 pm | Posted by: World Peace
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Victims of clerical sex abuse have reacted furiously to Pope Benedict's claim yesterday that paedophilia wasn't considered an “absolute evil” as recently as the 1970s

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  1. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:45 pm
    This guy continues to be an out of touch idiot!

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:08 pm
    I think he's criticizing society for normalizing these things. And he's right. The concepts of absolute right and wrong have been eroded and the acceptance and even active promotion of pre-pubescent sexuality has been rife since the 1960's and 1970's.

    To reinforce his point we have school districts teaching sex education to six-year old kids, 'alternative lifestyles' are now actively promoted in the schools, and while there's much condemnation against religious polygamists who marry young girls there's a deafening silence on the topic of gay and lesbian pederasty and gay and lesbian pedophilia.

    Bear in mind that most of the sexual assault cases the Roman Catholic Church has had to deal with are concerning homosexual pederasts and homosexual pedophiliacs.

  3. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:34 pm
    BartSimpson wrote:

    I think he's criticizing society for normalizing these things. And he's right. The concepts of absolute right and wrong have been eroded and the acceptance and even active promotion of pre-pubescent sexuality has been rife since the 1960's and 1970's.


    My social circle doesn't think it's normal. Maybe Catholics think differently.

    To reinforce his point we have school districts teaching sex education to six-year old kids, 'alternative lifestyles' are now actively promoted in the schools, and while there's much condemnation against religious polygamists who marry young girls there's a deafening silence on the topic of gay and lesbian pederasty and gay and lesbian pedophilia.


    Alternate lifestyles are hardly promoted, they are simply not demonized through education. As far as the deafening silecne goes, that would be ironic coming from Catholics.

    Bear in mind that most of the sexual assault cases the Roman Catholic Church has had to deal with are concerning homosexual pederasts and homosexual pedophiliacs.


    And? The Catholic church seems to attract those kind of creatures and seems to go out of its way to protect them as well.

    Catholics.... hmmmm. :|

    We spend a lot of time looking at the actions of Muslims outside of North America but forget about what Catholics did and are still doing here.

  4. by avatar Brenda
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:47 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    I think he's criticizing society for normalizing these things. And he's right. The concepts of absolute right and wrong have been eroded and the acceptance and even active promotion of pre-pubescent sexuality has been rife since the 1960's and 1970's.

    To reinforce his point we have school districts teaching sex education to six-year old kids, 'alternative lifestyles' are now actively promoted in the schools, and while there's much condemnation against religious polygamists who marry young girls there's a deafening silence on the topic of gay and lesbian pederasty and gay and lesbian pedophilia.

    Bear in mind that most of the sexual assault cases the Roman Catholic Church has had to deal with are concerning homosexual pederasts and homosexual pedophiliacs.

    With all due respect... This is imho the worst post you have ever written on this board... :?

  5. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:54 pm
    "Brenda" said
    I think he's criticizing society for normalizing these things. And he's right. The concepts of absolute right and wrong have been eroded and the acceptance and even active promotion of pre-pubescent sexuality has been rife since the 1960's and 1970's.

    To reinforce his point we have school districts teaching sex education to six-year old kids, 'alternative lifestyles' are now actively promoted in the schools, and while there's much condemnation against religious polygamists who marry young girls there's a deafening silence on the topic of gay and lesbian pederasty and gay and lesbian pedophilia.

    Bear in mind that most of the sexual assault cases the Roman Catholic Church has had to deal with are concerning homosexual pederasts and homosexual pedophiliacs.

    With all due respect... This is imho the worst post you have ever written on this board... :?

    With all due respect, this is yet another of your posts that is utterly devoid of purpose or meaning.

  6. by avatar Brenda
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:01 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    I think he's criticizing society for normalizing these things. And he's right. The concepts of absolute right and wrong have been eroded and the acceptance and even active promotion of pre-pubescent sexuality has been rife since the 1960's and 1970's.

    To reinforce his point we have school districts teaching sex education to six-year old kids, 'alternative lifestyles' are now actively promoted in the schools, and while there's much condemnation against religious polygamists who marry young girls there's a deafening silence on the topic of gay and lesbian pederasty and gay and lesbian pedophilia.

    Bear in mind that most of the sexual assault cases the Roman Catholic Church has had to deal with are concerning homosexual pederasts and homosexual pedophiliacs.

    With all due respect... This is imho the worst post you have ever written on this board... :?

    With all due respect, this is yet another of your posts that is utterly devoid of purpose or meaning.
    Oh, I can elaborate, but I refuse to even try to understand why you would defend actions as atrocious as these.
    The pope is far from right here, and imho, he should step down. You cannot be a head of a religion if you have no sense of morality AT ALL.

  7. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:04 pm
    "Brenda" said
    With all due respect... This is imho the worst post you have ever written on this board... :?


    With all due respect, this is yet another of your posts that is utterly devoid of purpose or meaning.
    Oh, I can elaborate, but I refuse to even try to understand why you would defend actions as atrocious as these.
    The pope is far from right here, and imho, he should step down. You cannot be a head of a religion if you have no sense of morality AT ALL.

    I could be wrong, but I believe Bart is Catholic, which makes the Pope's actions and words very defendable for him.

  8. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:14 pm
    "Gunnair" said
    And? The Catholic church seems to attract those kind of creatures and seems to go out of its way to protect them as well.

    Catholics.... hmmmm. :|

    We spend a lot of time looking at the actions of Muslims outside of North America but forget about what Catholics did and are still doing here.




    You'd probably be better served labelling all Christians as pedophiles since there have been other religions who have had this dark stain associated with them. Maybe not to the extent of the Catholic church but, who are still quilty of having ministers, priests or church elders involved in this disgusting, disturbing, illegal practice.

  9. by avatar Brenda
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:15 pm
    "Gunnair" said


    With all due respect, this is yet another of your posts that is utterly devoid of purpose or meaning.

    Oh, I can elaborate, but I refuse to even try to understand why you would defend actions as atrocious as these.
    The pope is far from right here, and imho, he should step down. You cannot be a head of a religion if you have no sense of morality AT ALL.

    I could be wrong, but I believe Bart is Catholic, which makes the Pope's actions and words very defendable for him.
    Well, again, with all due respect, if religion or faith, or whatever you want to call it, means you defend everything the leader says, you are nothing more or less than a sheep led into the dark pit of stupidity.
    I have respect for Bart, knowing he always thinks his thoughts and doesn't let anyone tell him what to do or think. But the pope? :?

    Just because "the boss" says so, it's ok to touch kids? I thought he was smarter than that... It is not normal, it was not normal then either. 1500 years ago, maybe, but not in my grandparents or parents childhoods...

  10. by avatar gonavy47
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:16 pm
    I don't know what all the fuss is about. It's all right there in the Altar Boy's Manual.(see "kneeling practice at Father's house" pg.43

  11. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:17 pm
    As for the Pope, he should STFU about the subject unless he's issuing an apology to the victims or an excommunication notice for one of the Pedophile Priests.

    As a caretaker Pope, what I find odd is that he seems to be hell bent on imposing his own ideals on the rest of the church.

  12. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:18 pm
    "Gunnair" said

    I could be wrong, but I believe Bart is Catholic


    You are and I am not.

  13. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:20 pm
    Read the bloody article people, and read it carefully. The man is not defending anything, he's being . :idea:

    I really expect better of most of you than to simply believe the spin that is put on a story.

    Child porn was normalized in the 1970's. Look at some of the movies of the period like "The Blue Lagoon" which was child porn dressed up as an art house picture. And then there was "Pretty Baby" which was outright child abuse. "Taxi Driver" was also another example of lightly veiled child porn and so was "The Little Girl who Lives down the lane".

    Public sensitivity to the topic is not nearly what it once was.

    And the man is also being critical of his own church for being too accepting of this heinous atrocity against children.

    Again, read it carefully and you'll see he's on your side.

  14. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:22 pm
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    And? The Catholic church seems to attract those kind of creatures and seems to go out of its way to protect them as well.

    Catholics.... hmmmm. :|

    We spend a lot of time looking at the actions of Muslims outside of North America but forget about what Catholics did and are still doing here.




    You'd probably be better served labelling all Christians as pedophiles since there have been other religions who have had this dark stain associated with them. Maybe not to the extent of the Catholic church but, who are still quilty of having ministers, priests or church elders involved in this disgusting, disturbing, illegal practice.

    I agree, though it seems to be the Catholics that have been the worst culprits as well as the ones doing their damndest to hide it.

    That being said, I don't really buy much into what I posted. As I pointed out to Bart in my tit for tat neg rep, he's quick to condemn an entire religion for the actions of a few, why not condemn all Catholics for the actions of their religious leadership and for the lack of groundswell backlash from the grass roots against these actions. Or, as you say, let's just condemn Christianity for warmaking and childfucking.



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