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Navy struggles to keep new icebreakers from sli

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Navy struggles to keep new icebreakers from slice in budget


Military | 206878 hits | Aug 24 3:15 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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OTTAWA - Federal documents say National Defence has reserved the right to build fewer of the Conservative government's vaunted Arctic offshore patrol ships — or further water down the capabilities of the warships — in order to stay within the project's bu

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  1. by avatar Dragom
    Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:32 am
    Wait... They wanted to build how many ice breakers for 3.1 billion?

    Cause I know enough about ships to know that isn't right.

  2. by avatar Arctic_Menace
    Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:26 am
    But of fucking course. :roll:

  3. by avatar Dragom
    Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:35 am
    Is the best weapon system for an Arctic Patrol Vessel a car port with a couple Jeeps and a dropping ramp?

    Deck-Mounted Guns seem a little old fashioned.

  4. by avatar bootlegga
    Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:44 pm
    "Dragom" said
    Wait... They wanted to build how many ice breakers for 3.1 billion?

    Cause I know enough about ships to know that isn't right.


    Well, given the size and capability of the ships Harper proposed, it might have been feasible to build six of them for that price, but eight was unlikely.

    The ships Harper proposed are similar to Denmark's Thetis class frigate, with some ice capability and a variety of potential weapons systems embarked (in a modular fashion).

    Frankly, I was of the opinion that the design, while not bad, was not good enough, as they are not capable of year round operations in the Arctic, which for an 'Arctic Patrol Vessel' should be mandatory. Instead, these APVs would be capable of operating for 4-5 months per year (mostly during the summer and early fall) before the ice gets too thick.


    "Dragom" said
    Is the best weapon system for an Arctic Patrol Vessel a car port with a couple Jeeps and a dropping ramp?

    Deck-Mounted Guns seem a little old fashioned.


    Similar ships (Denmark's Thetis and Norway's Svalbard) mount only a gun for use in Arctic patrol. The difference is they carry larger guns (76 mm and 57 mm respectively).

  5. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:50 pm
    "Dragom" said
    Is the best weapon system for an Arctic Patrol Vessel a car port with a couple Jeeps and a dropping ramp?

    Deck-Mounted Guns seem a little old fashioned.


    Today's deck mounted guns are highly effective and the entire munitions store aboard ship for a 3" gun is typically cheaper than any one missile aboard ship. Then the deck mounted machine guns are always needed for close quarters combat such as we are seeing in the IO with the so-called pirates.



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