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Military's no-sex fight in war zones called unw

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Military's no-sex fight in war zones called unwinnable


Military | 206911 hits | Jun 05 8:10 am | Posted by: wildrosegirl
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Enforcing the Canadian military's blanket ban on soldiers engaging in intimate relationships in a war zone is an unwinnable fight against human nature, some experts say.

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  1. by avatar GreenTiger
    Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:56 pm
    The soldiers are human beings, not robots.

  2. by avatar Brenda
    Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:05 pm
    Stupid question maybe, but how long are they there again?

    then:
    "You're losing your career because you're falling in love?" she said. "What a horrible thing for that to be."

    That happens EVERY DAY in normal life. People falling in love on the work floor is most of the time ending in one of the two quitting their job, and getting one somewhere else.

  3. by avatar andyt
    Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:18 pm
    Probably a good reason to go back to an all male army. The more fraternization between soldiers, the more there will be fights, jealousy etc. Just have all men, and send hookers to take care of them as needed, the way it used to be.

  4. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:38 am
    "andyt" said
    Probably a good reason to go back to an all male army. The more fraternization between soldiers, the more there will be fights, jealousy etc. Just have all men, and send hookers to take care of them as needed, the way it used to be.


    8O

    Damn, I didn't know the Government used to send us hookers. I guess I shouldn't have drank so freaking much at Tot time.

  5. by avatar Smacle
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:18 am
    I don't mean to sound sexist but that is the only reason I don't think women should be allowed in the Military, at least the infantry. Last thing I want on my mind is my fireteam partners ass.

  6. by avatar wildrosegirl
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:37 am
    Why is it the women's fault that the men in their unit can't keep their minds on their job instead of the women's pants? Why is it that women shouldn't be allowed to serve just because some of the men they might be working with are pigs?

    Sorry. Unfair justification.

  7. by avatar andyt
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:40 am
    "wildrosegirl" said
    Why is it the women's fault that the men in their unit can't keep their minds on their job instead of the women's pants? Why is it that women shouldn't be allowed to serve just because some of the men they might be working with are pigs?

    Sorry. Unfair justification.


    Who says it's only the men that are thinking about pants? Who says the women won't be the pigs? Why are men who want sex pigs, but women not? It takes two to tango.

  8. by avatar wildrosegirl
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:48 am
    "andyt" said
    Why is it the women's fault that the men in their unit can't keep their minds on their job instead of the women's pants? Why is it that women shouldn't be allowed to serve just because some of the men they might be working with are pigs?

    Sorry. Unfair justification.


    Who says it's only the men that are thinking about pants? Who says the women won't be the pigs? Why are men who want sex pigs, but women not? It takes two to tango.
    I don't hear the women bitching.

  9. by avatar andyt
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:04 am
    "wildrosegirl" said
    Why is it the women's fault that the men in their unit can't keep their minds on their job instead of the women's pants? Why is it that women shouldn't be allowed to serve just because some of the men they might be working with are pigs?

    Sorry. Unfair justification.


    Who says it's only the men that are thinking about pants? Who says the women won't be the pigs? Why are men who want sex pigs, but women not? It takes two to tango.
    I don't hear the women bitching.

    I don't know if anybody's bitching. There seem to be some reasonable arguments made against fraternization in a war zone - hence the regulation. If this is a problem, then one solution is not to allow women into war zones, or have segregated by gender units that have no contact with each other.

    'Course that just leaves the 10% of the soldiers who are likely gay/lesbian. I guess we'd have to identify them and put them in the opposite gender's units.

  10. by avatar Guy_Fawkes
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:34 am
    Alright, firstly women have as much right to work and fight along side men. There is no reason why women should be singled out on this, if a person can perform to the standard of the job they should be allowed to.

    On the subject of fraternization, its called a cold shower get over it. If a cold shower doesn't work (ie you dont have any cold water) walk over to the shitters rub one out and get back to work.

    "andyt" said

    Probably a good reason to go back to an all male army. The more fraternization between soldiers, the more there will be fights, jealousy etc. Just have all men, and send hookers to take care of them as needed, the way it used to be.


    I dont know what is worse, you actually thought that up as a solution or you decided ya this is an idea I want to share with the world.

    What you have mashed together is idiotic for the following reasons:
    1) Women are a valuable asset to the military, in an organization that has a problem with retention it is important to have all who are fit, able and willing.
    2) Women provide a different point of view, women just think things out differently and their input can be vital to the success of a mission.
    3) Women are better marksmen.
    4) Supplying Hookers, will only inflame a bad problem. Since it is not only sex that these particular men want its companionship. Also if you think a man will get jealous over wanting to be with a woman he isnt allowed to see, what do you think will happen when he cant be with one he is entitled to.

    "andyt" said

    'Course that just leaves the 10% of the soldiers who are likely gay/lesbian. I guess we'd have to identify them and put them in the opposite gender's units.


    That is just infuriating.

  11. by avatar CommanderSock
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:18 pm
    These guys aren't fighting in Europe or Asia anymore.

    Muslim women won't put out as easily.

    Must be frustrating for the soldiers.

  12. by avatar andyt
    Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:42 pm
    "Guy_Fawkes" said
    Alright, firstly women have as much right to work and fight along side men. There is no reason why women should be singled out on this, if a person can perform to the standard of the job they should be allowed to.
    That's why I suggested segregated units. But women aren't really taking on combat roles are they?

    "Guy_Fawkes" said
    On the subject of fraternization, its called a cold shower get over it. If a cold shower doesn't work (ie you dont have any cold water) walk over to the shitters rub one out and get back to work.
    Presumably this applies to female soldiers as much as men? But apparently this policy isn't working very well. Maybe sex dolls for the soldiers and vibrators for the women?

    "Guy_Fawkes" said

    4) Supplying Hookers, will only inflame a bad problem. Since it is not only sex that these particular men want its companionship. Also if you think a man will get jealous over wanting to be with a woman he isnt allowed to see, what do you think will happen when he cant be with one he is entitled to.


    Why are you only focused on the men? Presumably the women who are involved in fraternization also want companionship and are are at least equally capable of jealousy?

    "Guy_Fawkes" said


    'Course that just leaves the 10% of the soldiers who are likely gay/lesbian. I guess we'd have to identify them and put them in the opposite gender's units.


    That is just infuriating.

    Score! :D But any fraternization policy that doesn't address the GLBT issue is going to be defective.

  13. by avatar Guy_Fawkes
    Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:51 am
    There are several women in combat roles, put some sweat pants on and waddle to the closest military base and see for yourself. Just because one story makes it to the papers, does not mean there is a HUGE problem with fraternization. 99% of the soldiers who go to Afghanistan do their job in a professional matter, what they do on decompression or when they get back in country is a different matter.

    "andyt" said
    Why are you only focused on the men? Presumably the women who are involved in fraternization also want companionship and are are at least equally capable of jealousy?

    Do you have a point at all? What I said was merely an example of one of the MANY issues that would come up with legal prostitution.

    "andyt" said

    Score! :D But any fraternization policy that doesn't address the GLBT issue is going to be defective.

    I can see you're just a useless fucking troll, sorry for feeding you. :roll:

  14. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:15 am
    "Guy_Fawkes" said
    There are several women in combat roles, put some sweat pants on and waddle to the closest military base and see for yourself. Just because one story makes it to the papers, does not mean there is a HUGE problem with fraternization. 99% of the soldiers who go to Afghanistan do their job in a professional matter, what they do on decompression or when they get back in country is a different matter.

    Why are you only focused on the men? Presumably the women who are involved in fraternization also want companionship and are are at least equally capable of jealousy?

    Do you have a point at all? What I said was merely an example of one of the MANY issues that would come up with legal prostitution.

    "andyt" said

    Score! :D But any fraternization policy that doesn't address the GLBT issue is going to be defective.

    I can see you're just a useless fucking troll, sorry for feeding you. :roll:

    Feeding the resident sexist retards shouldn't be done, but sometimes it is fun.



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