Obama asks Justice Dep’t. to examine legality of Arizona immigration bill

"Bruce_the_vii" said
You mean like they need illegals? The debate in the USA about immigration reform, an amenesty for the millions of illegals, procedes without much economics, as far as I can make out.

How Much Does That Lettuce Really Cost?

High Cost of Illegal Immigration
There is an argument that if there were no illegal immigrants our food cost would be really high. Is it possible that there are hidden costs in that lettuce that we now buy, that lettuce already costs more than we think? There are some costs that illegal immigrants cause American society that are rarely thought of . My experience is based on living and teaching in California.

From personal experience 1) Many illegal immigrant families share the cost of renting or the purchase of a home with others they know. They live in homes zoned for a single family dwelling. In our old neighborhood it was common for 3 and 4 families to share a home. One home two doors down from us had 6 families sharing it. An average family had 10 kids and many had 12. So for schools planning on possibly 3 children per home they could have from 40-60 children per home. The increased costs don't end there. Many illegal Immigrant children using fraudulently obtained identities get free lunches and that adds still more to the public school burden and budget. Most are bused to school causing schools to have to spend extra money on fuel, bus repair and bus replacement. This adds increased cost to the public schools and an added burden to those living and working legally through the ever increasing state and property taxes.

2) Illegal immigrants rarely have insurance so most must use the Emergency room at your hospitals even for non-emergencies, causing hospitals to raise their cost or close entirely making a trip to the hospital more expensive due to increased insurance cost. When figuring out the increased cost it is necessary to add increased gas cost that is required when getting medical care because the nearest hospital is no longer near.

3) Since most employers require proof of residency ie Social Security Cards there are businesses selling social security numbers at an average cost of $2,000 per number. At least that was the cost 4 years ago the last time I had a direct quote. The social security numbers come from Identity theft from living and dead people causing increased burden on law enforcement and destroying lives of honest law abiding people who's IDs has been stolen. No way of knowing how this effects actual people on Social Security. Many use these same Social Security numbers to apply for welfare which increases the amount spent on providing welfare causing government spending to continue to rise.

4)Many illegal immigrants drive without insurance or even a legal drivers license, causing increased cost of auto insurance even in states like Georgia that requires all drivers living in Georgia to have auto insurance.

When all of that is considered the cost for the $1.50 a head of lettuce is way more than $1.50.

There are better ways to address the illegal immigrant population than a fence across Arizona and California but until the true cost of these guest workers are factored in and made public our politicians will never have a backbone enough to address these issues.

It used to be that if an offer of a penny for your thoughts were made, many of us would gladly share our thoughts. Now at least some of us aren't so sure that we can afford to share our thoughts even for the cost of a head of lettuce.

"xerxes" said
Not sure this will be a good move for the Arizona economy.
/quote]

That was a good clip. Another thing to consider is how many lawsuits this law could easily cause. Anyone who gets arrested but who is a citizen can file a wrongful arrest suit.

That is, if this law survives until its implementation date.

"sandorski" said
Not sure this will be a good move for the Arizona economy.
/quote]

That was a good clip. Another thing to consider is how many lawsuits this law could easily cause. Anyone who gets arrested but who is a citizen can file a wrongful arrest suit.

That is, if this law survives until its implementation date.

"tritium" said
You mean like they need illegals? The debate in the USA about immigration reform, an amenesty for the millions of illegals, procedes without much economics, as far as I can make out.

How Much Does That Lettuce Really Cost?

High Cost of Illegal Immigration
There is an argument that if there were no illegal immigrants our food cost would be really high. Is it possible that there are hidden costs in that lettuce that we now buy, that lettuce already costs more than we think? There are some costs that illegal immigrants cause American society that are rarely thought of . My experience is based on living and teaching in California.

From personal experience 1) Many illegal immigrant families share the cost of renting or the purchase of a home with others they know. They live in homes zoned for a single family dwelling. In our old neighborhood it was common for 3 and 4 families to share a home. One home two doors down from us had 6 families sharing it. An average family had 10 kids and many had 12. So for schools planning on possibly 3 children per home they could have from 40-60 children per home. The increased costs don't end there. Many illegal Immigrant children using fraudulently obtained identities get free lunches and that adds still more to the public school burden and budget. Most are bused to school causing schools to have to spend extra money on fuel, bus repair and bus replacement. This adds increased cost to the public schools and an added burden to those living and working legally through the ever increasing state and property taxes.

2) Illegal immigrants rarely have insurance so most must use the Emergency room at your hospitals even for non-emergencies, causing hospitals to raise their cost or close entirely making a trip to the hospital more expensive due to increased insurance cost. When figuring out the increased cost it is necessary to add increased gas cost that is required when getting medical care because the nearest hospital is no longer near.

3) Since most employers require proof of residency ie Social Security Cards there are businesses selling social security numbers at an average cost of $2,000 per number. At least that was the cost 4 years ago the last time I had a direct quote. The social security numbers come from Identity theft from living and dead people causing increased burden on law enforcement and destroying lives of honest law abiding people who's IDs has been stolen. No way of knowing how this effects actual people on Social Security. Many use these same Social Security numbers to apply for welfare which increases the amount spent on providing welfare causing government spending to continue to rise.

4)Many illegal immigrants drive without insurance or even a legal drivers license, causing increased cost of auto insurance even in states like Georgia that requires all drivers living in Georgia to have auto insurance.

When all of that is considered the cost for the $1.50 a head of lettuce is way more than $1.50.

There are better ways to address the illegal immigrant population than a fence across Arizona and California but until the true cost of these guest workers are factored in and made public our politicians will never have a backbone enough to address these issues.

It used to be that if an offer of a penny for your thoughts were made, many of us would gladly share our thoughts. Now at least some of us aren't so sure that we can afford to share our thoughts even for the cost of a head of lettuce.

"sandorski" said
Not sure this will be a good move for the Arizona economy.
/quote]

That was a good clip. Another thing to consider is how many lawsuits this law could easily cause. Anyone who gets arrested but who is a citizen can file a wrongful arrest suit.

That is, if this law survives until its implementation date.

"Proculation" said
Always America's fault...

I guess it's America's fault there is corruption in Mexico ? or that the drug cartels are running entire regions in north Mexico ?

The problem is not from America. The problem is the criminality and the corruption in the country. How can build a strong economy when there's no law ? Impossible.