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Greatest hockey deal that never was Pocklington

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Greatest hockey deal that never was Pocklington, Ballard planned to transfer


Sports | 206797 hits | Oct 11 6:40 am | Posted by: gigs
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Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Jari Kurri and the rest of the young Edmonton Oilers nearly ended up being moved to Toronto in a $50-million blockbuster transfer of the two entire teams hatched by Harold Ballard, then-owner of the Maple Leafs, and Peter Pock

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  1. by Anonymous
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:43 pm
    That is one trade the world should be thankful never happened. Could you imagine the arrogance of Toronto if they had won those Cups! It's bad enough now with a city of losers.

  2. by avatar Mustang1
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:14 pm
    Toronto is no city of losers...it has real fans that evidently stick with a team through the bad times. No posers, bandwagon jumpers or fake fans here. I guess some of us get the concept of hockey and being fan.

  3. by avatar stemmer
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:32 pm
    The Maple Leafs have dumb fans who are perpetuating the mediocrity of the Leafs by selling out attendance wise every single game. The Best thing to happen to the Leafs would be if their attendance were to fall it would tell management they must ice a better product... But why ice a better product when the selling of it isn't a problem????

  4. by Lemmy
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:39 pm
    "stemmer" said
    The Maple Leafs have dumb fans who are perpetuating the mediocrity of the Leafs by selling out attendance wise every single game. The Best thing to happen to the Leafs would be if their attendance were to fall it would tell management they must ice a better product... But why ice a better product when the selling of it isn't a problem????


    You don't know what you're talking about. Hockey fans don't go to Leafs games; they can't afford it. Leafs fans watch the games at home or at the bars.

  5. by avatar Alta_redneck
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:48 pm
    With the Habs in Edmonton and the CBC not broadcasting the Sens game. Trying to watch the Leaf’s game last night while waiting for the football game to start, gave me a flashback to my youth. It was just like when we only had 2 channels, waking up on a Sunday morning and having to suffer through nothing but church programming until the fishing shows came on.

  6. by avatar Mustang1
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:49 pm
    "stemmer" said
    The Maple Leafs have dumb fans who are perpetuating the mediocrity of the Leafs by selling out attendance wise every single game. The Best thing to happen to the Leafs would be if their attendance were to fall it would tell management they must ice a better product... But why ice a better product when the selling of it isn't a problem????


    Says the Blues fan. Who cares? Leafs fans are FANS. It means supporting the team in the good times and the current bad ones. And how are the Blues doing? Stanley Cups? Nope. Attendance? T.V. deals? Anyone even care beside wannabe hockey fans? Maybe they need to just pack up and go to somewhere that cares like Winnipeg or Hamilton.

  7. by avatar stemmer
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:06 pm
    Since 1967-68 (the first year the Blues joined the NHL) I would bet they have a better record during the regular season and playoffs then the "Make Me Laughs"...LOL...

  8. by avatar stemmer
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:10 pm
    "Lemmy" said
    The Maple Leafs have dumb fans who are perpetuating the mediocrity of the Leafs by selling out attendance wise every single game. The Best thing to happen to the Leafs would be if their attendance were to fall it would tell management they must ice a better product... But why ice a better product when the selling of it isn't a problem????


    You don't know what you're talking about. Hockey fans don't go to Leafs games; they can't afford it. Leafs fans watch the games at home or at the bars.

    They don't...!!! Then why are the Leafs games always sold out? Only the Leafs & Rangers have consistent sell outs... Even Montreal's attendance will dip when the Habs are below par...

    Remember a few years ago when the Flames would drape off the upper bowl because attendance was sparse. Why spend you're hard earned coin on a team that is not winning... If you want a corporation to better their product then don't buy it....

  9. by Lemmy
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:16 pm
    "stemmer" said
    [They don't...!!! Then why are the Leafs games always sold out? Only the Leafs & Rangers have consistent sell outs... Even Montreal's attendance will dip when the Habs are below par...


    Because the entire arena is corporate season tickets. The people who use those tickets are family and friends of people that work for the companies who own the seats. Virtually NO ONE at a Leafs game paid for the tickets they're using. We used to go 8 or 10 times a season before my father-in-law retired from Warner-Lambert. Haven't been since.

    "stemmer" said

    Remember a few years ago when the Flames would drape off the upper bowl because attendance was sparse. Why spend you're hard earned coin on a team that is not winning... If you want a corporation to better their product then don't buy it....


    That's some backward logic. Make a team willing to spend more on talent by cutting off its revenue stream? Where'd you study economics? That's why the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers are in the MLB playoffs and the Jays, Pirates and A's are not, right?

  10. by avatar Dayseed
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:34 pm
    "stemmer" said
    They don't...!!! Then why are the Leafs games always sold out? Only the Leafs & Rangers have consistent sell outs... Even Montreal's attendance will dip when the Habs are below par...


    Um, how do you explain the Minnesota Wild's perfect attendance streak then? Thanks for trying your lay-hand at hockey, but leave it alone.

    Remember a few years ago when the Flames would drape off the upper bowl because attendance was sparse. Why spend you're hard earned coin on a team that is not winning... If you want a corporation to better their product then don't buy it....


    Here's my guess. You don't live in Toronto and you don't get what the Leafs mean to the city, shit, most of southern Ontario. It's THE team. Everybody else is a distraction, time-filler or wannabe. The Toronto Sun/Star and Globe ALL put the damn Leafs on the cover over waaaaaay more important stories because the team pushes papers for them. Even CFRB, the newstalk station, devoted some of their on-air talk-time to Leaf discussions. There's Leafs TV. Kids send in their applications to be the flag-bearer for the Leafs Nation at the start of each home game.

    The Blues picked up Wayne Gretzky on the cheap and that's the only damn thing they've ever done. Guess they shoulda hung on to Shanahan, huh?

  11. by avatar stemmer
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:35 pm
    What incentive is their to build a better product if the consumers are buying your product anyway?

    Red Wings attendance was dipping until the Red Wings started to win cups in the 1990's. The same is true of the Penguins. Attendance was dismal until they won their back to back Cups in the early 1990's...

  12. by avatar stemmer
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:38 pm
    In hockey mad Minnesota if the Wild soon don't start to put up consistent numbers they will share the same fate as the North Stars.... or the WHA's Fighting Saints...

  13. by avatar Mustang1
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:45 pm
    "stemmer" said
    Since 1967-68 (the first year the Blues joined the NHL) I would bet they have a better record during the regular season and playoffs then the "Make Me Laughs"...LOL...


    And would anyone even care? Only hockey posers. LOL

  14. by avatar Mustang1
    Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:47 pm
    "Dayseed" said
    They don't...!!! Then why are the Leafs games always sold out? Only the Leafs & Rangers have consistent sell outs... Even Montreal's attendance will dip when the Habs are below par...


    Um, how do you explain the Minnesota Wild's perfect attendance streak then? Thanks for trying your lay-hand at hockey, but leave it alone.

    Remember a few years ago when the Flames would drape off the upper bowl because attendance was sparse. Why spend you're hard earned coin on a team that is not winning... If you want a corporation to better their product then don't buy it....


    Here's my guess. You don't live in Toronto and you don't get what the Leafs mean to the city, shit, most of southern Ontario. It's THE team. Everybody else is a distraction, time-filler or wannabe. The Toronto Sun/Star and Globe ALL put the damn Leafs on the cover over waaaaaay more important stories because the team pushes papers for them. Even CFRB, the newstalk station, devoted some of their on-air talk-time to Leaf discussions. There's Leafs TV. Kids send in their applications to be the flag-bearer for the Leafs Nation at the start of each home game.

    The Blues picked up Wayne Gretzky on the cheap and that's the only damn thing they've ever done. Guess they shoulda hung on to Shanahan, huh?

    Here' my guess - he doesn't know squat about hockey and his "fav" team is a nothing entity in a league stepped in tradition, history and cultural significance.

    People care more about the Buds than the Blues because there are FANS in Toronto.



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