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Governor General calling herself 'head of state

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Governor General calling herself 'head of state' riles monarchists


Political | 206814 hits | Oct 08 9:53 am | Posted by: leewgrant
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Canadian monarchists and constitutional experts are raising strong objections to a speech given this week in Paris by Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean, in which she referred to herself twice as Canada's "head of state" — a position formally occupied by Queen Eliz

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  1. by avatar leewgrant
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:57 pm
    If I recall Mme Jean's predecessor not only thought she was head of state, she even thought she was the Queen. :(

  2. by avatar Akhenaten
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:07 pm
    "The Article" said
    Rideau Hall explained the reference, in a response to questions from Canwest News Service, as follows: "As the representative of the Crown in Canada, the Governor General carries out the duties of Head of State, and therefore is de facto Head of State."
    Hard to argue witht hat. Serisously: when was the last time we petitioned the Queen for something?


    "The Article" said
    But that response has only further stunned officials with the Monarchist League of Canada, who reacted sharply to Jean's speech and her apparent self-promotion to a higher station in Canada's constitutional monarchy.



    ....who must be proud to have made the news since they are a tiny little leage not even entirely formed of Canadians.

    Look I like the Queen I really do, but when she dies who do we have after that? Dumb and dumber. When Queen E dies expect many Commonwealth nations to make the 'defacto' seperation between Monarchy and State even clearer than they already are.

  3. by avatar maldonsfecht
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:10 pm
    and she'd been doing so well up till this point! :-( sad... someone get her script rewritten before she starts to believe it

  4. by avatar gonavy47
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:28 pm
    The Queen is our head of state. If the Governor General is confused about her position, she should be replaced by someone who understands the job.

  5. by avatar Strutz
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:40 pm
    "Akhenaten" said
    Look I like the Queen I really do, but when she dies who do we have after that? Dumb and dumber. When Queen E dies expect many Commonwealth nations to make the 'defacto' seperation between Monarchy and State even clearer than they already are.

    Agreed. I expect that too. But how would this decision be made? Do you think there would be a referendum and that we would vote on this or would the powers that be in government make this decision themselves?

    In another thread there was dicussion about Prince Charles being passed over in favor of William to be King. I would favor this, since Charles is an idiot, however times have changed and I can't even see William as an effective king. I think Canada can stand on its own now without the monarchy.

  6. by avatar bootlegga
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:57 pm
    Silly Monarchists, don't you know Trix are for kids...

  7. by Goober_McGee
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:58 pm
    "Strutz" said
    I think Canada can stand on its own now without the monarchy.


    I wonder sometimes why more Canadians don't realise this. The Monarchy is British, they live in Britain and do British things and every now and then they might grace the colonies with their presence. Maybe Canada should have it's own monarchy, not some Brits who bear the title of Monarch of Canada, ie Canadian born and raised. I don't think there would be much if any republican sentiment (outside of hardcore separatists in Quebec and super leftists) if that were the case.

  8. by Chumley
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:00 pm
    "Akhenaten" said
    [quote="The Article":2u25nex1]Rideau Hall explained the reference, in a response to questions from Canwest News Service, as follows: "As the representative of the Crown in Canada, the Governor General carries out the duties of Head of State, and therefore is de facto Head of State."
    Hard to argue with that. Serisously: when was the last time we petitioned the Queen for something?


    I tried to talk her into a threesome just last week. Does that count?

  9. by avatar gonavy47
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:22 pm
    "Goober_McGee" said
    I think Canada can stand on its own now without the monarchy.


    I wonder sometimes why more Canadians don't realise this. The Monarchy is British, they live in Britain and do British things and every now and then they might grace the colonies with their presence. Maybe Canada should have it's own monarchy, not some Brits who bear the title of Monarch of Canada, ie Canadian born and raised. I don't think there would be much if any republican sentiment (outside of hardcore separatists in Quebec and super leftists) if that were the case.
    It's what makes us different from our cousins to the south. Enjoy it while we have it. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

  10. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:26 pm
    How much of my taxpayers dollars go towards supporting this medieval throwback and conservative shill.

  11. by avatar Akhenaten
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:29 pm
    It's what makes us different from our cousins to the south. Enjoy it while we have it. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
    "Goober_McGee" said
    I think Canada can stand on its own now without the monarchy.


    I wonder sometimes why more Canadians don't realise this. The Monarchy is British, they live in Britain and do British things and every now and then they might grace the colonies with their presence. Maybe Canada should have it's own monarchy, not some Brits who bear the title of Monarch of Canada, ie Canadian born and raised. I don't think there would be much if any republican sentiment (outside of hardcore separatists in Quebec and super leftists) if that were the case.

    It's what makes us different from our cousins to the south. Enjoy it while we have it. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

    I don't want to start something with you Navy but are you saying that the only thing that seperates us from the US is that they don't go through the motions of pretending to ask the Queen for permission to do something when in reality they never remotely had any intention of literally asking her permission?

    I think what seperates us from the US in this context is parliament. I'm betting there's a lot of Americans who would've enjoyed the right to vote non-confidence in a few of their presidents decisions, for example.

  12. by avatar gonavy47
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:35 pm
    And where, my Egyptian friend, did the parliamentary system come from? Hmmm?

  13. by Goober_McGee
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:36 pm
    "gonavy47" said
    I think Canada can stand on its own now without the monarchy.


    I wonder sometimes why more Canadians don't realise this. The Monarchy is British, they live in Britain and do British things and every now and then they might grace the colonies with their presence. Maybe Canada should have it's own monarchy, not some Brits who bear the title of Monarch of Canada, ie Canadian born and raised. I don't think there would be much if any republican sentiment (outside of hardcore separatists in Quebec and super leftists) if that were the case.
    It's what makes us different from our cousins to the south. Enjoy it while we have it. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
    I'm sorry, but we are a lot different from our southern cousins in a ton of ways: culture, history, government systems, political economy, basic values......

    Canada's parliamentary system could stay the same if we were a republic, GG would just become a president or some other term for head of state while the PM would still be head of government.

  14. by avatar Akhenaten
    Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:37 pm
    And where, my Egyptian friend, did the parliamentary system come from? Hmmm?


    Not the Queen? It was the commonwealth states that adopted it and each in their own way. The British came up with a lot of popular things -- many of which were distinctly anti-monarchist. Heck even Britons don't ask her permission.



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