Holy fuckballs. I drop F-bombs in senior executive meetings for fuck sakes. I would be so pissed if I got an F-bomb ticket on the fucking train!!! And I actually do ride the train in Calgary.
There's a time and a place for certain vocabulary. Fishing-trip vernacular is differnt from Grandma's-funeral vernacular. But the Charter right to Freedom of Speech is pretty goddamned important. If you can't say "Fuck" you can't say "Fuck the Government" and that's not democracy.
I wish more places were doing this. There is a time and place for any kind of speech. Little kids are going to have a hard enough time of it from the exposure to it on TV. The use of certain language when there are young kids around is rude and shows lack of consideration.
Freedom of Speech doesn't come into play here as far as I'm concerned. You are not using the language in the context of discourse against the government or an idea or a movement, etc when you are just walking down the street talking loud with your buddies. The use of that kind of language in a public environment, to me, just shows that you cannot articulate your thoughts at a higher level and are forced to use crass, unimaginative words that mearly make you look uneducated.
"travior" said I wish more places were doing this. There is a time and place for any kind of speech. Little kids are going to have a hard enough time of it from the exposure to it on TV. The use of certain language when there are young kids around is rude and shows lack of consideration.
Freedom of Speech doesn't come into play here as far as I'm concerned. You are not using the language in the context of discourse against the government or an idea or a movement, etc when you are just walking down the street talking loud with your buddies. The use of that kind of language in a public environment, to me, just shows that you cannot articulate your thoughts at a higher level and are forced to use crass, unimaginative words that mearly make you look uneducated.
"travior" said I wish more places were doing this. There is a time and place for any kind of speech. Little kids are going to have a hard enough time of it from the exposure to it on TV. The use of certain language when there are young kids around is rude and shows lack of consideration.
Ok, I am not an insensitive idiot. I actually agree with you but I simple can't resist the urge to play devil's advocate....
For example:
if 'mutherfucker' is a vulgar word, then what about 'Mo Fo'?
I would expect this from an NDP type government, but it just goes to show there's bugger-all difference between left and right today when it comes to making government more intrusive and bringing on the mommy state.
The hilarious part is that governments keep trying to encourage people to use the peasant wagon (public transit). Why on earth would anybody willingly put up with a bunch of Transit Cops writing them tickets every time they say somehting they deem offensive? Or then there was Vancouver last year, when the cops adn city suddenly decided that it should be leagl to arbitrarily search tranist riders.
"llama66" said People that don't have cars should be taxed for the strain that they put on the public transit system.
no, we should be praised for the strain we take off the planet
I agree, I ride transit in Calgary by choice, what I don't like is taking my kid on the bus and having to listen to a bunch of 15 year olds talk about thier drug use and swearing. Theres a time and place for vulgarity and people should be aware that in public it's not acceptable.
We've degenerated to the point as a society where foul language is accepted or ignored, you hear things all over that you wouldn't have even 10 years ago and it's a trend that is disturbing to say the least.
"Choban" said People that don't have cars should be taxed for the strain that they put on the public transit system.
no, we should be praised for the strain we take off the planet
I agree, I ride transit in Calgary by choice, what I don't like is taking my kid on the bus and having to listen to a bunch of 15 year olds talk about thier drug use and swearing. Theres a time and place for vulgarity and people should be aware that in public it's not acceptable.
We've degenerated to the point as a society where foul language is accepted or ignored, you hear things all over that you wouldn't have even 10 years ago and it's a trend that is disturbing to say the least.
If you drove you could avoid all that. You'd hve complete control over your environment. No swearing, no teenagers, no drugs, no people sneezing on you, no being rocked all over with stops and starts.
Really, whose fault is it? You choose to use public transportation.
"Zipperfish" said Really, whose fault is it? You choose to use public transportation.
Back in the day when I used public transportation, it was only because I had no other choice. It cost too much to ride where I was going in a cab, and it was too far to walk. At the time I didn't have the money for my own car. I imagine many people who ride are in the same boat.
Since I bought a car I haven't set foot on a city bus or a Greyhound and I aim never to do so again.
Zipper I have a family of 2 children and a stay at home wife, I can afford 1 vehicle and choose to leave it at home for my wife to use. It takes almost as long for me to get to work on the bus/train as it does in the car and it's cheaper per month than paying for the gas I would use, not to mention the environmental impact. So yes I do chose public transportation but that doesn't mean I have to tolerate degenerates with Gangstar language all the time. There is such a thing as common courtesy! (too many people have none these days), If I was at a family restaurant and some idiot at the next table was dropping f-bombs around my kids I would speak up about it, I do the same on transit. It's the non-chalant attitudes of society that foster issues like this. Bad things happen when good people do nothing!
I wonder what else they consider "swearing"?
Lord's name in vane? Shit? Crap? Poop? Retard?
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Freedom of Speech doesn't come into play here as far as I'm concerned. You are not using the language in the context of discourse against the government or an idea or a movement, etc when you are just walking down the street talking loud with your buddies. The use of that kind of language in a public environment, to me, just shows that you cannot articulate your thoughts at a higher level and are forced to use crass, unimaginative words that mearly make you look uneducated.
I wish more places were doing this. There is a time and place for any kind of speech. Little kids are going to have a hard enough time of it from the exposure to it on TV. The use of certain language when there are young kids around is rude and shows lack of consideration.
Freedom of Speech doesn't come into play here as far as I'm concerned. You are not using the language in the context of discourse against the government or an idea or a movement, etc when you are just walking down the street talking loud with your buddies. The use of that kind of language in a public environment, to me, just shows that you cannot articulate your thoughts at a higher level and are forced to use crass, unimaginative words that mearly make you look uneducated.
Well said.
I wish more places were doing this. There is a time and place for any kind of speech. Little kids are going to have a hard enough time of it from the exposure to it on TV. The use of certain language when there are young kids around is rude and shows lack of consideration.
Ok, I am not an insensitive idiot. I actually agree with you but I simple can't resist the urge to play devil's advocate....
For example:
if 'mutherfucker' is a vulgar word, then what about 'Mo Fo'?
Who decides what is vulgar? Webster dictionary?
The hilarious part is that governments keep trying to encourage people to use the peasant wagon (public transit). Why on earth would anybody willingly put up with a bunch of Transit Cops writing them tickets every time they say somehting they deem offensive? Or then there was Vancouver last year, when the cops adn city suddenly decided that it should be leagl to arbitrarily search tranist riders.
People that don't have cars should be taxed for the strain that they put on the public transit system.
no, we should be praised for the strain we take off the planet
People that don't have cars should be taxed for the strain that they put on the public transit system.
no, we should be praised for the strain we take off the planet
I agree, I ride transit in Calgary by choice, what I don't like is taking my kid on the bus and having to listen to a bunch of 15 year olds talk about thier drug use and swearing. Theres a time and place for vulgarity and people should be aware that in public it's not acceptable.
We've degenerated to the point as a society where foul language is accepted or ignored, you hear things all over that you wouldn't have even 10 years ago and it's a trend that is disturbing to say the least.
People that don't have cars should be taxed for the strain that they put on the public transit system.
no, we should be praised for the strain we take off the planet
I agree, I ride transit in Calgary by choice, what I don't like is taking my kid on the bus and having to listen to a bunch of 15 year olds talk about thier drug use and swearing. Theres a time and place for vulgarity and people should be aware that in public it's not acceptable.
We've degenerated to the point as a society where foul language is accepted or ignored, you hear things all over that you wouldn't have even 10 years ago and it's a trend that is disturbing to say the least.
If you drove you could avoid all that. You'd hve complete control over your environment. No swearing, no teenagers, no drugs, no people sneezing on you, no being rocked all over with stops and starts.
Really, whose fault is it? You choose to use public transportation.
Really, whose fault is it? You choose to use public transportation.
Back in the day when I used public transportation, it was only because I had no other choice. It cost too much to ride where I was going in a cab, and it was too far to walk. At the time I didn't have the money for my own car. I imagine many people who ride are in the same boat.
Since I bought a car I haven't set foot on a city bus or a Greyhound and I aim never to do so again.
I have a family of 2 children and a stay at home wife, I can afford 1 vehicle and choose to leave it at home for my wife to use. It takes almost as long for me to get to work on the bus/train as it does in the car and it's cheaper per month than paying for the gas I would use, not to mention the environmental impact. So yes I do chose public transportation but that doesn't mean I have to tolerate degenerates with Gangstar language all the time.
There is such a thing as common courtesy! (too many people have none these days), If I was at a family restaurant and some idiot at the next table was dropping f-bombs around my kids I would speak up about it, I do the same on transit.
It's the non-chalant attitudes of society that foster issues like this. Bad things happen when good people do nothing!