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Election talk harms Ignatieff in poll

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Election talk harms Ignatieff in poll


Political | 206803 hits | Sep 10 7:52 am | Posted by: WDHIII
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OTTAWA — Canadians think Michael Ignatieff is wrong to try to force an election this fall and the Liberal leader’s popularity has nosedived as a result, a new poll suggests.

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  1. by avatar gonavy47
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:04 pm
    Oh Iggy. Give it up! Canadians don't want an American as Prime Minister.Stop trying to weaken this country when what we need most is stability.

  2. by Lemmy
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:07 pm
    "gonavy47" said
    Oh Iggy. Give it up! Canadians don't want an American as Prime Minister.Stop trying to weaken this country when what we need most is stability.


    Only morons believe attack ad bullshit.

  3. by avatar gonavy47
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:09 pm
    "Lemmy" said
    Oh Iggy. Give it up! Canadians don't want an American as Prime Minister.Stop trying to weaken this country when what we need most is stability.


    Only morons believe attack ad bullshit.
    Something up your nose Lemmy?

  4. by Lemmy
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:14 pm
    "gonavy47" said
    Oh Iggy. Give it up! Canadians don't want an American as Prime Minister.Stop trying to weaken this country when what we need most is stability.


    Only morons believe attack ad bullshit.
    Something up your nose Lemmy?

    Nope. Are you a man or a parrot?

  5. by avatar Akhenaten
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:16 pm
    "Lemmy" said
    Oh Iggy. Give it up! Canadians don't want an American as Prime Minister.Stop trying to weaken this country when what we need most is stability.


    Only morons believe attack ad bullshit.

    Whatever. It's ironic that Liberals have been calling Harper an "American ass kisser"..."American wannabie"...."American-style neo-con" all this time. They've been doing it for years. Now that Iggy shows up you don't hear that crap any more. Exactly what is it about Iggy being an American that's 'bullshit'?

    It's not. He has duel citizenship = he IS an American. Attack ads don't enter into it.

  6. by Lemmy
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:31 pm
    "Akhenaten" said
    Whatever. It's ironic that Liberals have been calling Harper an "American ass kisser"..."American wannabie"...."American-style neo-con" all this time. They've been doing it for years. Now that Iggy shows up you don't hear that crap any more. Exactly what is it about Iggy being an American that's 'bullshit'?

    It's not. He has duel citizenship = he IS an American. Attack ads don't enter into it.


    First, there's no such thing as "duel citizenship". In the case of Americans, there is no such thing as "dual" citizenship either. To become an American citizen, you must renounce citizenship in the other country. Did Iggy do this?

    It's "bullshit" because the guy left Canada for professional reasons. We don't call NHL-ers playing in the USA "Americans"? Are Canadian soldiers working in Afghanistan "Afganis" now? Then why criticize Iggy for being smart enough to get a job at Harvard? Would he be more of a Canadian if he'd worked in Toronto instead? Boston's closer to most Canadians than Vancouver is. It's not like he was off on a 34 year trip to Uranus.

    The whole "just visiting" campaign is trageted at the 2-digit IQed mouth breathers. Feel free to plug your nose and parrot the tv commercials here if you like.

  7. by ridenrain
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:37 pm
    You sure go on the Iggy defensive for someone who's not a Liberal.

  8. by avatar Akhenaten
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:38 pm
    In the case of Americans, there is no such thing as "dual" citizenship either. To become an American citizen, you must renounce citizenship in the other country.

    Wrong.

    The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy. Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.

    The U.S. Government acknowledges that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance.

    However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there. Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter that country. Use of the foreign passport does not put into jeopardy your U.S. citizenship. Most countries permit a person to renounce or otherwise lose citizenship.



    Dual citizenship..."Dual nationals"...what's in a name? It's the same thing.

    It's "bullshit" because the guy left Canada for professional reasons. We don't call NHL-ers playing in the USA "Americans"?

    Lol. Uh, 'cept they don't leave for 12 years.

    The whole "just visiting" campaign is trageted at the 2-digit IQed mouth breathers. Feel free to plug your nose and parrot the tv commercials here if you like.
    "Akhenaten" said
    Whatever. It's ironic that Liberals have been calling Harper an "American ass kisser"..."American wannabie"...."American-style neo-con" all this time. They've been doing it for years. Now that Iggy shows up you don't hear that crap any more. Exactly what is it about Iggy being an American that's 'bullshit'?

    It's not. He has duel citizenship = he IS an American. Attack ads don't enter into it.


    First, there's no such thing as "duel citizenship". In the case of Americans, there is no such thing as "dual" citizenship either. To become an American citizen, you must renounce citizenship in the other country. Did Iggy do this?

    It's "bullshit" because the guy left Canada for professional reasons. We don't call NHL-ers playing in the USA "Americans"? Are Canadian soldiers working in Afghanistan "Afganis" now? Then why criticize Iggy for being smart enough to get a job at Harvard? Would he be more of a Canadian if he'd worked in Toronto instead? Boston's closer to most Canadians than Vancouver is. It's not like he was off on a 34 year trip to Uranus.

    The whole "just visiting" campaign is trageted at the 2-digit IQed mouth breathers. Feel free to plug your nose and parrot the tv commercials here if you like.

    The 2-Digit IQ's are also the realm of the 'neo-con' spouters.

  9. by avatar gonavy47
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:39 pm
    Well, he has to defend his ridiculous argument somehow.

  10. by ridenrain
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:50 pm
    If we look at the seat numbers, Iggy really has no where to go. He may pick up one or two but he's just as likely to lose more. This move of his to get away from the Dion, bluff big but fold tactic was never meant as an election platform and I think it's just another bluff that the other parties are calling him on.

  11. by avatar saturn_656
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:12 pm
    Canadians don't want an election now, I'm betting most folk are more concerned about the economy as opposed to who gets to live in 24 Sussex.

    If Iggy was smart he would keep his ambitions for power in check.

  12. by EdwardRI
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:15 pm
    Meh, I'd prefer Iggy over Dion any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I don't really know what Iggy's policies are though, so I'm going to prefer Harper for now. Ultimately, it comes down to economic policies to me anyway.

    I find it quite amusing that most of the Liberal Party fear-mongering done with Harper (regarding Americanism, support of Bush policies, et cetera) is arguably more applicable to the Liberal Party leader.

  13. by ridenrain
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:18 pm
    I agree but he desperately needs to distance himself from the Canadian record, 43 abstentions that Dion made. The Libs need to appear as opponents to the CPC, not objecting supporters. Iggy was hoping that the other opposition parties would play that part but it dosen't look like are going to. Hense, all the election talk.

  14. by avatar Akhenaten
    Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:19 pm
    "EdwardRI" said

    I find it quite amusing that most of the Liberal Party fear-mongering done with Harper (regarding Americanism, support of Bush policies, et cetera) is arguably more applicable to the Liberal Party leader.

    R=UP

    bingo.



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