Michael Ignatieff hurt by his own tactics

Poor Iggy. Looks like we may have another Dion.

His total lack of direction or policy is a mistake... and when he did speak out, he often came down on the wrong side of his party line.
Not a leader.

It doesn't help when a party leader has spent the past 34 years of his life not living here either. I suspect most of his fellow MP's have are better connected to Canada and Canadians simply just by living here, suprising concept. Case in point watch when social issues are brought up to him, his eyes glaze over and kind of goes into la-la land. Social issues are suppose to be the core of Liberal values, a "connected" Canadian would know that, he's just here to win.

Oh don't underestimate Iggy, or maybe I should say don't underestimate the media's support for Iggy. The man has back tracked on just about every position he has been publicly vocal about but yet not one peep or ounce of attention has been paid to that fact other than the election backtracking he did recently. Same goes for the invisible platform policies he claims to have.

Definitely a Tory biased article, but it’s complaining that Iggy hasn’t taken over as Prime Minister yet?

It really doesn't help the Conservatives, and it certainly doesn't hurt Ignatieff.

It’s a silly piece, even for non news.

That's the Star's idea of ballanced

You forgot to start of this post on how you use to vote for Conservatives what gives jelly bean ?

It's also a good piece of information that Liberals should take notice.

The Liberals have a new leader, the worst recession in 100 years, a PM who's office makes blunder after blunder....all the tools to push them higher in the polls. However, the continue to dwindle down

Funny how you refer to it as a "silly piece". If this was about Harper, you'd be all over it saying what a good read it was.

That's an excellent observation.

Good points all. Leader after leader and all they have to show for it is lackluster improvements, no policy plans and a still faultering financial situation.
.. and the media is trying. Look at every little thing Harper does in inflated to the point of apoplexia. On their eyes, he can't do anything right yet his government has got a great deal of things done in a very hostile enviroment.

I liked the part where someone said a Jim Travers Toronto Star article was biased in favour of Conservatives. I haven't had a laugh that good in a long time.

From the original report in Post 1:



Yeah I thought Iggy would Pop.

I thought he was a hell of a lot better then Dion, but not by much.... just another old fuddy duddy in a suit who has no concept of reality other then what he says in front of a camera.

^ Here's a question... if he folded because people didn't want an election, how come he didn't pull out the Coalition Card again? Didn't he say that was still on the table?

He runs around the country, prancing and finger pointing, talking about he's gonna change the government, how he's gonna control Harper and his shenanigans, he's gonna be the tough guy.... whooo hoooo.... you go girlfriend.

Yet what do we end up with?

The same old Good Cop / Bad Cop BS that's plagued our country since it began.... Conservatives and Liberals taking their turns in the spot light to do their little acting for the country and screwing up to the point where nobody seems to know which party is the most incompetent, so we keep getting them both sharing power with one another, yet acting like they don't like each other.

Reminds me of the Democrats and Republicans.... acting tough and standing up for the little fella on camera, yet when it comes down to crunch time, it's the same old crap.

I bet we'd probably get the Libs and Cons to snap sh*t if we all just voted in a totally different party into power and end this shared monopoly. They already know that whether they win or lose an election, they'll either be in first or second place..... so it really matters not to them.

And they already have the propaganda machines running for so long now in regards to voting anything other then Liberal or Conservative..... ooooOOoooo.... Booga booga, nobody apparently can do a good enough job compared to them afterall.... as if all their screwups were a good job.

And when you only have two parties running the country since the dawn of our nation and everybody seems to just keep picking them over and over again, because anything else "Will just be a throw away vote", then what sort of democracy is that?

Sounds like an illusion that makes us think we really have a choice.

Or maybe we just like these choices because we can predict how we're going to be screwed over each year.



I'd much rather actually take a chance. I could vote for the same recycled parties like everybody else and expect my routine of being taxed to hell, or having programs cut, or stupid moral laws forced apon me for my own good..... or I could vote for someone else.

Is there a risk of the same thing happening? Sure

Is there a risk that they could screw things up even worse? Sure

But there is also the chance that they might actually do things better and do them right.

I already know what to expect with the other two, and things haven't been improving all that much imo.... in fact it would seem our government has been getting more and more dysfunctional and dividing the nation further and further.

Harper did a wonderful job in this by blaming "Quebec Seperatists" over the Coalition because of dealing with the Liberals..... yet the Conservatives tried a similar thing with the Bloc against the Liberals.

Thus the cycle continues.

You forgot to start of this post on how you use to vote for Conservatives what gives jelly bean ?

Since it finally seems to be sinking in...... no need to remind anyone.

It's also a good piece of information that Liberals should take notice.

The Liberals have a new leader, the worst recession in 100 years, a PM who's office makes blunder after blunder....all the tools to push them higher in the polls. However, the continue to dwindle down

Funny how you refer to it as a "silly piece". If this was about Harper, you'd be all over it saying what a good read it was.

Other than the part I bolded I agree with what you're saying. I seem to remember studying a little thing called "The Great Depression" that makes this so-called recession look like a tea party.