OTTAWA -- Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff wants the Canadian embassy in Tehran to do all it can to help those injured in the Iranian government's crackdown.
I'm fully expecting this week that some wackadoo from the Liberals or NDP will start bawling about how it's a national disgrace that every Canadian embassy everywhere doesn't have a fully staffed emergency room and MASH level triage to be immediately employed for when the locals start chopping each other into little bitty bits.
Cue up the chorus: IT'S ALL STEPHEN HARPER'S FAULT!
"jason700" said When people are in need, you do what you can to help. Enough said.
If it were that simple we wouldn't be having this discussion. For one, are the embassies even equipped to handle medical emergencies and if so what volume can they handle. Two, letting Iranians into the embassy opens a whole can of worms up. Will the Iranian government see it as a sign of Western interference which will ultimately cause problems down the road if not the out right expulsion of the embassy staff. Will hard liners try to attack the embassy if they know the embassy is taking people in, creating a much more volatile and dangerous situation. Will the people they take in try to claim refugee status which again leads back to the last two points. It's a pretty complex situation and at the moment for as much as I sympathize with the Iranians I don't see any benefit for anyone coming from letting them into the embassy.
Just like during the Lebanon problem, the Libs pushed into high gear so they could pretend, once again, to be the protector or the immigrant. Predictable.
I don't recall anyone saved from our Rwandan offices when the genocide was going on, even though we had military forces there who knew this was going to hapen ahead of time. Dispite warnings the UN did nothing, but more important, Canada did nothing. Why isn't the media blaming Chretien for that? Was the price of silence a senate seat? Too bad the media are so weak not to look into that obvious connection.
Haiti was in trouble and depite our close relationship, I don't recall Canadian embassies saving anyone there. Same with the middle east, on numerous occasions. .
It used to be that hyphenated Canadians were protected by the other state when they were abroad and protected by Canada when they were in country. I guess the Grits and their pet media changed the rules when Harper took power.
What started this was last weekend when the bullets started flying Canada, the Dutch and a few other embassies decided to close shop for 'the weekend' to everyone while the majority stayed open and began intake of domestic wounded with ties to the embassies once reports came in that treatment at hospitals was being denied by the authorities. Now in this situation you either stand together or hang seperatly. Its not an issue like Lebanon in that this is Canada leaving early when everyone else is pitching in not that Canada isn't making the embassy open as a hospital to anyone who strolls in.
Why is this a story didn't the embassy start helping people by our time saturday. So they were a couple of hours behind, its the government big suprise.
Well it will give them something to howl about in the house this week.
Hey, well it's nice to see all the conservatvies here supporting their brethren in Iran like Ahmadinejad.
After all, when you think about it, this is just liberals stirring up their usual crap about freedom and garbage like that. I think what is required is a nice crack by the revolutionary guards, cut a few down in the streets, grab the leaders and the intellectuals and torture them uselss somewhere. And if that means we have to step over a few broken bodies in the streets, so be it.
"Zipperfish" said Hey, well it's nice to see all the conservatvies here supporting their brethren in Iran like Ahmadinejad.
After all, when you think about it, this is just liberals stirring up their usual crap about freedom and garbage like that. I think what is required is a nice crack by the revolutionary guards, cut a few down in the streets, grab the leaders and the intellectuals and torture them uselss somewhere. And if that means we have to step over a few broken bodies in the streets, so be it.
But it'd still be Stephen Harper's fault if the embassy were seized and the staff held hostage, right?
Cue up the chorus: IT'S ALL STEPHEN HARPER'S FAULT!
When people are in need, you do what you can to help. Enough said.
If it were that simple we wouldn't be having this discussion. For one, are the embassies even equipped to handle medical emergencies and if so what volume can they handle. Two, letting Iranians into the embassy opens a whole can of worms up. Will the Iranian government see it as a sign of Western interference which will ultimately cause problems down the road if not the out right expulsion of the embassy staff. Will hard liners try to attack the embassy if they know the embassy is taking people in, creating a much more volatile and dangerous situation. Will the people they take in try to claim refugee status which again leads back to the last two points. It's a pretty complex situation and at the moment for as much as I sympathize with the Iranians I don't see any benefit for anyone coming from letting them into the embassy.
simple, start providing aid outside of the embassy gate.
I don't think you'll find to many Canadians walking outside of the embassy's gates right at the moment.
I don't recall anyone saved from our Rwandan offices when the genocide was going on, even though we had military forces there who knew this was going to hapen ahead of time. Dispite warnings the UN did nothing, but more important, Canada did nothing. Why isn't the media blaming Chretien for that? Was the price of silence a senate seat?
Too bad the media are so weak not to look into that obvious connection.
Haiti was in trouble and depite our close relationship, I don't recall Canadian embassies saving anyone there. Same with the middle east, on numerous occasions. .
It used to be that hyphenated Canadians were protected by the other state when they were abroad and protected by Canada when they were in country. I guess the Grits and their pet media changed the rules when Harper took power.
Well it will give them something to howl about in the house this week.
After all, when you think about it, this is just liberals stirring up their usual crap about freedom and garbage like that. I think what is required is a nice crack by the revolutionary guards, cut a few down in the streets, grab the leaders and the intellectuals and torture them uselss somewhere. And if that means we have to step over a few broken bodies in the streets, so be it.
Hey, well it's nice to see all the conservatvies here supporting their brethren in Iran like Ahmadinejad.
After all, when you think about it, this is just liberals stirring up their usual crap about freedom and garbage like that. I think what is required is a nice crack by the revolutionary guards, cut a few down in the streets, grab the leaders and the intellectuals and torture them uselss somewhere. And if that means we have to step over a few broken bodies in the streets, so be it.
But it'd still be Stephen Harper's fault if the embassy were seized and the staff held hostage, right?