Man's strip search 'sexual assault'

They should be charged with something for sure, I'm of the understanding that officers need a viable basis to do a search. Aressting someone for being rowdy at his own birthday bash is not viable in my mind.

Man oh man, it's like the cops are deliberately provoking the Canadian public with this nonsense. I'm beginning to think what they really need to do is lay off, say, 20% of the cops. Just get rid of them. I think that might focus their minds on what is important.

But that's not will happen. Like any bureaucracy, the police will initially deny the problem. When that becomes ineffectvie they'll seek to internalize it ("You're right, we're horrible. Now give us x million dolars and we'll fix it for you.") Funding failure encourages failure in my opinion.

Another lawyer with an agenda. He already lost his case but he's going to the court of appeal.
He was arrested for being a drunken dickhead, thought he'd scare the cops by doing the lawyer thing but it didn't work and he's calling the race card. Yawn, here we go again.

Being a drunken dickhead is no grounds for a cavity search. The cops were seeking to humiliate the guy, looks like to me. Unfortunately, it seems these days that cops have lost their bearing. Like I said, I'm coming to the conclusion that there's just too many of them. If you and your partner have got the time to take half your shift exerting your dominance to some drunken shyster, then, in my opinion, you're not busy enough.

He says there was a cavity search, the Criminal Court didn't find his evidence credible.
And on cavity searches, never done one mate, never needed to and I can't see why one was done.

You believe the lawyer with an agenda who lost at court over the cops.

Me, I'll wait to see what happens at the Court of Appeal. The rush to judge is the easy route.

And trust me, Toronto cops are busy enough.

Well your unflagging defence of your brethren is admirable, Eyebrock. I say that without a hint of sarcasm.

I'm thinking if this guy has sunk this much of his own energy and money into his pursuit, then I'm inclined to believe that he's serious about it. Also, the facts of the strip search do not seem to be in question, dfreom reading he article. Why would you strip search someone whooping it up outside the bars? Don't sound right.

In the case of Dzineski you had four RCMP officers, two security and lord knows how many Vancouver Airport minions all dealing with one unruly guy. With all those people the outcome was a man's death. Seems to me that you could have taxpayer a lot of bucks adn probably had a better outcome with a lot less people. Too mnay security personnel in our society. Too mnay scared people.

All the court said was the evidence of sexuall assault wasn't credible, not that a cavity search wasn't done.
Never had the experience myself but I'd do the same in his situation, no leagal basis for the search (ie. possesion of drugs, suspected dealing ect), I'm sure it's not common practice to cavity search someone going into the drunk tank. So in this case he may have a case, though I will agree to you that there is the possability that he's just another lawyer with an agenda. we will have to await the final verdict.

Actually a cavity search is standard proceedure in most jails, whether your going into the drunk tank or being charged with a felony.

This guy got treated the same as any other prisoner and just because he's a lawyer doesn't mean squat, other than to bring even more embarrasement to a profession that's seen to be lacking any moral or redeeming values.

All the court said was the evidence of sexuall assault wasn't credible, not that a cavity search wasn't done.
Never had the experience myself but I'd do the same in his situation, no leagal basis for the search (ie. possesion of drugs, suspected dealing ect), I'm sure it's not common practice to cavity search someone going into the drunk tank. So in this case he may have a case, though I will agree to you that there is the possability that he's just another lawyer with an agenda. we will have to await the final verdict.

Remember, defence counsel is never interested in presenting a balanced view of the facts; they're there as advocates for their position. If a Provincial Court ruled that there wasn't sexual assault, then hey, too bad for this guy. Remember, that judge got to hear BOTH sides of the story and ruled in the cops favour, you're reading a one-sided sensational account in which the journalist apparently didn't even ask the Toronto Police what their account was, nor did he bother to quote from court transcripts in the event they denied comment.

Been in the drunk tank myself (once or twice) and other than a pat down and removal of my shoelaces I was not subjected to any indecent searches.

All the court said was the evidence of sexuall assault wasn't credible, not that a cavity search wasn't done.
Never had the experience myself but I'd do the same in his situation, no leagal basis for the search (ie. possesion of drugs, suspected dealing ect), I'm sure it's not common practice to cavity search someone going into the drunk tank. So in this case he may have a case, though I will agree to you that there is the possability that he's just another lawyer with an agenda. we will have to await the final verdict.

Remember, defence counsel is never interested in presenting a balanced view of the facts; they're there as advocates for their position. If a Provincial Court ruled that there wasn't sexual assault, then hey, too bad for this guy. Remember, that judge got to hear BOTH sides of the story and ruled in the cops favour, you're reading a one-sided sensational account in which the journalist apparently didn't even ask the Toronto Police what their account was, nor did he bother to quote from court transcripts in the event they denied comment.

Good point

Having been on the "bad" side of the law as a younger fellow and spent more than a few days incarcerated, I had never been strip-searched. But trying to board an El Al airplane while looking like a refugee and reeking of booze did get me my very own private strip search!

Been in the drunk tank myself (once or twice) and other than a pat down and removal of my shoelaces I was not subjected to any indecent searches.

Been there the odd time myself and depending on where you were lucky enough to be arrested had alot to do with how you were processed.

Every jail in the States that I had the pleasure of visiting used these same strip search proceedures, where as in Canadian jails it was a hit or miss proposition.

But that was in another century and with the current drug epidemic and criminal activity I'd feel pretty safe in saying that the strip search is probably a standard proceedure for processing prisoners now.

Been in the drunk tank myself (once or twice) and other than a pat down and removal of my shoelaces I was not subjected to any indecent searches.

Been there the odd time myself and depending on where you were lucky enough to be arrested had alot to do with how you were processed.

Every jail in the States that I had the pleasure of visiting used these same strip search proceedures, where as in Canadian jails it was a hit or miss proposition.

But that was in another century and with the current drug epidemic and criminal activity I'd feel pretty safe in saying that the strip search is probably a standard proceedure for processing prisoners now.

Your probably right, it's a different day and age. My last processing was prior to 9/11.