German soldiers 'drink and complain too much to fight Taleban'

German troops have changed from their own traditions.

They used to be feared and respected.

it's what the gov't allows... don't blame the soldiers... I think I'd still rather have NATO German troops on my flank than French...

there is still a feeling of unease in Germany about both national pride and military strength... this generation is still brought up in the "Tatervolk" mentality (translates as the deed-folk or people who did the deed...) and must tread lightly due to the country's Nazi past. I read while living over there that they will not send troops for UN peacekeeping in the Israel/Palestine beause "there might be a situation where they would have to aim their rifles at Israelis and that is unacceptable"

Of course the troops are a reflection of the government and the "will of the people" but their pathetic allies in our fight against the taliban.

I completely agree... it should not be mainly the USA, Australia, Great Britain and Canada putting their soldiers in harm's way... 100% agreed there

Don't forget about the dutch man, they've been pullin their weight too.

Dunno about the Danes, but atleast they brought a couple tanks with em.

absolutely... don't want to leave out the active combat participants...