MONTREAL -- Looking for a correct answer to a Canadian history question? It all depends where you ask.
Prince Edward Island, the birthplace of Confederation?
Ontario, Parliament Hill's home province?
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Wonder how many kids are taught that during and after WWI Canada was involved in the Russian Revolution in support of the White Russians and the Czech Legion alongsode the British and French in the west, and Americans, Japanese (they fought on the same side), and British in the east.
Aside from Japanese efforts, which ended in 1922, the allies withdrew by 1920, with most canadians pulled out by 1919. Why wasn't it taught? I'm willing to bet it was because technically we lost to the Revolters. Not alot is taught about history during the interwar years, but it would have been nice to know what was potentially one of the primary causes of the cold war tensions.
I just learned all this the other day, and want to look into it more, but I'm quite dissapointed it wasn't even mentioned during history class. I find 1867 through to 1949 to be an incredibly interesting time period, with so much going on all over the world. Would have been nice to know atleast Canada's involvement in all of it.
It got a "B+" because, in part, it demands more required courses (2) in its quasi-nationalistic curriculum? Brilliant. Ontario also has Civics - i wonder if it got points as we received a "B".
"Canadian_Mind" said Wonder how many kids are taught that during and after WWI Canada was involved in the Russian Revolution in support of the White Russians and the Czech Legion alongsode the British and French in the west, and Americans, Japanese (they fought on the same side), and British in the east.
Aside from Japanese efforts, which ended in 1922, the allies withdrew by 1920, with most canadians pulled out by 1919. Why wasn't it taught? I'm willing to bet it was because technically we lost to the Revolters. Not alot is taught about history during the interwar years, but it would have been nice to know what was potentially one of the primary causes of the cold war tensions.
I just learned all this the other day, and want to look into it more, but I'm quite dissapointed it wasn't even mentioned during history class. I find 1867 through to 1949 to be an incredibly interesting time period, with so much going on all over the world. Would have been nice to know atleast Canada's involvement in all of it.
There's only so much you can teach kids in a single semester, especially when we're talking about grade 10 kids in their first history course. What you relate above is certainly interesting history, but not really appropriate for grade 10s, especially non-academic grade 10s. You have to learn to walk before you run. Try teaching a bunch of 14 year olds about partisan revolts and the roots of the cold war and they'll be lining up for art and cosmetology instead of history for grade 11.
I started learning WWI and WWII history back in kindergarden, and every year it was expanded upon until grade 8/9, where we started learning about our european roots, and from there everything continued to be canada-oriented until late grade 11 where we touched on WWI and WWII again rigt before the end of semester. My home room teach was the grade 12 history teacher, and from him he basically told me that the History 12 course was more about WWI and WWII, and the rest about the cold war after 1945 up to modern Canadian history (about 1995).
Very weak in my opinion, and frankly I don't even know that much about the World wars from my history classes save for specific key engagements, and how WWII played out from start to finish. Nothing involving the other parts of the world involved in the conflict besides Europe and a bit of Japan.
"Bodah" said Guess history of Canada had its start in Quebec.. maybe thats why the good mark.
Acadia, Michilimackinac, Detroit - none are taught in Quebec high schools
It's narrow-minded to think Canada started in Quebec.
Quebec has a different version of Canadian history. Ken has obviously pointed out that he's been through the curriculum.
You're pointing the obvious Bodah
I'm from Quebec, went through the Quebec's education system and still can't believe the crap I 'learned' during those years.
I can't agree more with Desmond's assessment
Quebec having the most nationalistic ideology in the country has used history like every other nationalist ideologues to make conversions among the young
You're lucky if you got that much. All I can remember is a brief overview of WW1 that didn't even focus on Canada, a session of learning how evil Canada was for the Japanese internments, and a whack of nonsense about the Bushmen of the Kalahari. From what I can tell, in the Calgary area anyway, you're looking at 3rd/4th year university courses to get anything in depth about either World War.
This was all back in 1980 thru 1985. As such I don't know if it's improved at all. Considering that fifteen years of Don Getty and Ralph Klein managed to make Alberta significantly dumber I'd be more likely to bet that it's gotten worse
I remember my grade 10 history teacher mostly trying to prevent Pete Hainey and Lyndon Wilson from lighting the goddamn classroom on fire. I think we read about Billy Bishop and I remember something about Bennett Buggies and the CCF. Mostly, I was thinking about Lisa Stewart, who sat in front of me, and whether her older brother would stop buying beer for me if he knew I was working my way into her panties at every weekend field party.
I'm from Quebec, went through the Quebec's education system and still can't believe the crap I 'learned' during those years.
I can't agree more with Desmond's assessment
Quebec having the most nationalistic ideology in the country has used history like every other nationalist ideologues to make conversions among the young
I know, I have french friends with kids saying they hate what their kids are being taught.
Ive seen some of these history books with titles like "je me souviens"
Aside from Japanese efforts, which ended in 1922, the allies withdrew by 1920, with most canadians pulled out by 1919. Why wasn't it taught? I'm willing to bet it was because technically we lost to the Revolters. Not alot is taught about history during the interwar years, but it would have been nice to know what was potentially one of the primary causes of the cold war tensions.
I just learned all this the other day, and want to look into it more, but I'm quite dissapointed it wasn't even mentioned during history class. I find 1867 through to 1949 to be an incredibly interesting time period, with so much going on all over the world. Would have been nice to know atleast Canada's involvement in all of it.
Guess history of Canada had its start in Quebec.. maybe thats why the good mark.
Acadia, Michilimackinac, Detroit - none are taught in Quebec high schools
It's narrow-minded to think Canada started in Quebec.
Wonder how many kids are taught that during and after WWI Canada was involved in the Russian Revolution in support of the White Russians and the Czech Legion alongsode the British and French in the west, and Americans, Japanese (they fought on the same side), and British in the east.
Aside from Japanese efforts, which ended in 1922, the allies withdrew by 1920, with most canadians pulled out by 1919. Why wasn't it taught? I'm willing to bet it was because technically we lost to the Revolters. Not alot is taught about history during the interwar years, but it would have been nice to know what was potentially one of the primary causes of the cold war tensions.
I just learned all this the other day, and want to look into it more, but I'm quite dissapointed it wasn't even mentioned during history class. I find 1867 through to 1949 to be an incredibly interesting time period, with so much going on all over the world. Would have been nice to know atleast Canada's involvement in all of it.
There's only so much you can teach kids in a single semester, especially when we're talking about grade 10 kids in their first history course. What you relate above is certainly interesting history, but not really appropriate for grade 10s, especially non-academic grade 10s. You have to learn to walk before you run. Try teaching a bunch of 14 year olds about partisan revolts and the roots of the cold war and they'll be lining up for art and cosmetology instead of history for grade 11.
Guess history of Canada had its start in Quebec.. maybe thats why the good mark.
Acadia, Michilimackinac, Detroit - none are taught in Quebec high schools
It's narrow-minded to think Canada started in Quebec.
Quebec has a different version of Canadian history. Ken has obviously pointed out that he's been through the curriculum.
Very weak in my opinion, and frankly I don't even know that much about the World wars from my history classes save for specific key engagements, and how WWII played out from start to finish. Nothing involving the other parts of the world involved in the conflict besides Europe and a bit of Japan.
Guess history of Canada had its start in Quebec.. maybe thats why the good mark.
Acadia, Michilimackinac, Detroit - none are taught in Quebec high schools
It's narrow-minded to think Canada started in Quebec.
Quebec has a different version of Canadian history. Ken has obviously pointed out that he's been through the curriculum.
You're pointing the obvious Bodah
I'm from Quebec, went through the Quebec's education system and still can't believe the crap I 'learned' during those years.
I can't agree more with Desmond's assessment
This was all back in 1980 thru 1985. As such I don't know if it's improved at all. Considering that fifteen years of Don Getty and Ralph Klein managed to make Alberta significantly dumber I'd be more likely to bet that it's gotten worse
You're pointing the obvious Bodah
I'm from Quebec, went through the Quebec's education system and still can't believe the crap I 'learned' during those years.
I can't agree more with Desmond's assessment
What part of the curriculum was 'crap', if I may ask?
You're pointing the obvious Bodah
I'm from Quebec, went through the Quebec's education system and still can't believe the crap I 'learned' during those years.
I can't agree more with Desmond's assessment
I know, I have french friends with kids saying they hate what their kids are being taught.
Ive seen some of these history books with titles like "je me souviens"