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US abortion doctor is shot dead

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US abortion doctor is shot dead


Uncle Sam | 207235 hits | May 31 12:02 pm | Posted by: xerxes
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A prominent US abortion doctor has been shot dead at his church in Wichita, Kansas, city officials say.

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  1. by avatar GreenTiger
    Sun May 31, 2009 7:16 pm
    It looks some lunatic right to life nut murdered someone.

  2. by avatar xerxes
    Sun May 31, 2009 7:17 pm
    I love how Operation Rescue is denouncing this while their leader Randall Terry used to help run a site called the Nurenburg Files which was list of high-profile doctors who performed abortions; and after doctors on the list were killed their names were crossed off the list.

  3. by avatar xerxes
    Sun May 31, 2009 7:23 pm
    It could also be a Bill O'Reilly viewer:



    Either way, I give it a 50/50 chanve that on FOX, not one anchor, nor Lying Sack of Dog Mess, will decry this murder; rather that they'll be all but jumping for joy.

  4. by avatar sandorski
    Sun May 31, 2009 8:50 pm
    The same Dr was shot before and had a Bomb planted at his Clinic. People wonder why the South gets criticized.

  5. by avatar commanderkai
    Sun May 31, 2009 10:26 pm
    "xerxes" said
    Either way, I give it a 50/50 chanve that on FOX, not one anchor, nor Lying Sack of Dog Mess, will decry this murder; rather that they'll be all but jumping for joy.


    *Scratches head* I didn't realize news agencies need to denounce events. Sheesh.

    Anyway, yeah, some extreme nut killed this guy, unless there's a new anti-abortion terrorist organization in the US

  6. by avatar Pseudonym
    Sun May 31, 2009 11:38 pm
    One should not disobey a just law to protest an immoral one.

  7. by avatar bootlegga
    Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:59 am
    Apparently only unborn babies have a right to life...

  8. by avatar Public_Domain
    Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:00 am
    :|

  9. by avatar xerxes
    Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:22 am
    "commanderkai" said
    Either way, I give it a 50/50 chanve that on FOX, not one anchor, nor Lying Sack of Dog Mess, will decry this murder; rather that they'll be all but jumping for joy.


    *Scratches head* I didn't realize news agencies need to denounce events. Sheesh.

    Anyway, yeah, some extreme nut killed this guy, unless there's a new anti-abortion terrorist organization in the US

    Most of the time, they don't have to. FOX is, of course, different. Especially considering the following:


    O'Reilly's campaign against murdered doctor

    By Gabriel Winant

    May 31, 2009 | When his show airs tomorrow, Bill O'Reilly will most certainly decry the death of Kansas doctor George Tiller, who was killed Sunday while attending church services with his wife. Tiller, O'Reilly will say, was a man who was guilty of barbaric acts, but a civilized society does not resort to lawless murder, even against its worst members. And O'Reilly, we can assume, will genuinely mean this.

    But there's no other person who bears as much responsibility for the characterization of Tiller as a savage on the loose, killing babies willy-nilly thanks to the collusion of would-be sophisticated cultural elites, a bought-and-paid-for governor and scofflaw secular journalists. Tiller's name first appeared on "The Factor" on Feb. 25, 2005. Since then, O'Reilly and his guest hosts have brought up the doctor on 28 more episodes, including as recently as April 27 of this year. Almost invariably, Tiller is described as "Tiller the Baby Killer."

    Tiller, O'Reilly likes to say, "destroys fetuses for just about any reason right up until the birth date for $5,000." He's guilty of "Nazi stuff," said O'Reilly on June 8, 2005; a moral equivalent to NAMBLA and al-Qaida, he suggested on March 15, 2006. "This is the kind of stuff happened in Mao's China, Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Soviet Union," said O'Reilly on Nov. 9, 2006.

    O'Reilly has also frequently linked Tiller to his longtime obsession, child molestation and rape. Because a young teenager who received an abortion from Tiller could, by definition, have been a victim of statutory rape, O'Reilly frequently suggested that the clinic was covering up for child rapists (rather than teenage boyfriends) by refusing to release records on the abortions performed.

    When Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline, an O'Reilly favorite who faced harsh criticism for seeking Tiller's records, was facing electoral defeat by challenger Paul Morrison, O'Reilly said, "Now we don't endorse candidates here, but obviously, that would be a colossal mistake. Society must afford some protection for viable babies and children who are raped." (Morrison ultimately unseated Kline.)

    This is where O'Reilly's campaign against George Tiller becomes dangerous. While he never advocated anything violent or illegal, the Fox bully repeatedly portrayed the doctor as a murderer on the loose, allowed to do whatever he wanted by corrupt and decadent authorities. "Also, it looks like Dr. Tiller, who some call Tiller the Baby Killer, is spending a large amount of money in order to get Mr. Morrison elected. That opens up all kinds of questions," said O'Reilly on Nov. 6, 2006, in one of many suggestions that Tiller was improperly influencing the election.

    Tiller's excuses for performing late-term abortions, O'Reilly suggested, were frou-frou, New Age, false ailments: The woman might have a headache or anxiety, or have been dumped by her boyfriend. She might be "depressed," scoffed O'Reilly, which he dismissed as "feeling a bit blue and carr a certified check." There was, he proposed on Jan. 5, 2007, a kind of elite conspiracy of silence on Tiller. "Yes, OK, but we know about the press. But it becomes a much more intense problem when you have a judge, confronted with evidence of criminal wrongdoing, who throws it out on some technicality because he wants to be liked at the country club. Then it's intense."

    Tiller, said O'Reilly on Jan. 6 of this year, was a major supporter of then-Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. "I think it's unfairly characterized as just a grip and grin relationship. He was a pretty big supporter of hers." She had cashed her campaign check from Tiller, "doesn't seem to be real upset about this guy operating a death mill, which is exactly what it is in her state, does she?" he asked on July 14 of last year. "Maybe she'll -- maybe she'll pardon him," he scoffed two months ago.

    This is where it gets most troubling. O'Reilly's language describing Tiller, and accusing the state and its elites of complicity in his actions, could become extremely vivid. On June 12, 2007, he said, "Yes, I think we all know what this is. And if the state of Kansas doesn't stop this man, then anybody who prevents that from happening has blood on their hands as the governor does right now, Governor Sebelius."

    Three days later, he added, "No question Dr. Tiller has blood on his hands. But now so does Governor Sebelius. She is not fit to serve. Nor is any Kansas politician who supports Tiller's business of destruction. I wouldn't want to be these people if there is a Judgment Day. I just -- you know ... Kansas is a great state, but this is a disgrace upon everyone who lives in Kansas. Is it not?"

    This characterization of Tiller fits exactly into ancient conservative, paranoid stories: a decadent, permissive and callous elite tolerates moral monstrosities that every common-sense citizen just knows to be awful. Conspiring against our folk wisdom, O'Reilly says, the sophisticates have shielded Tiller from the appropriate, legal consequences for his deeds. It's left to "judgment day" to give him what's coming.

    O'Reilly didn't tell anyone to do anything violent, but he did put Tiller in the public eye, and help make him the focus of a movement with a history of violence against exactly these kinds of targets (including Tiller himself, who had already been shot). In those circumstances, flinging around words like "blood on their hands," "pardon," "country club" and "judgment day" was sensationally irresponsible.


  10. by avatar commanderkai
    Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:15 am
    And this explains the other attempt on his life and the bombing that happened before 2005?

    Okay, yes. You hate Fox News. Get over yourself. The guy was in the public eye for being one of the very, very few late term abortion doctors in the United States, and that alone made him a target three years before Fox News even existed.

    The fact is, the "history of violence" against abortion doctors is overblown, with only 9 deaths in the United States over 16 years, and 17 attempted murders. More people are killed daily by car accidents and yet these events, although sad, bring out these leftist paranoia theories about how EVILLL and bloodthirsty those "Xtians" are.

  11. by avatar jason700
    Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:46 am
    Comparing how often there is an attempt on an abortion doctor to the number of people who die in car accidents is kinda "apples and oranges" isn't it?

    And again with the myth about the left being anti-Christian... :roll:

  12. by avatar commanderkai
    Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:46 am
    "jason700" said
    Comparing how often there is an attempt on an abortion doctor to the number of people who die in car accidents is kinda "apples and oranges" isn't it?


    Yes, it is. The only problem is, shit like this happens. People get killed by nutjobs every day, and just because this one was an abortion doctor, here comes these people either blaming those loony Christians or Fox News, or whatever else. The fact Fox News was brought up ignores the fact this guy was almost murdered 3 years before the station even existed.

    Look at some of the other posts. They talk about "right to life" supporters, which mean religious citizens. The largest group of them in North America is Christianity of some sort. Stupid shit like this happens, but I don't expect environmental groups to apologize for the actions of the ELF, so why should Fox News or Christian groups do the same?

  13. by avatar xerxes
    Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:07 am
    Question: Are not groups like Operation Rescue, Christian in nature? Or is what Al Qaeda and Hezbollah dojust random nutjob-iness as welland not religiously motivated extremism? Because that's what Dr. Tiller's murder was; religiously motivated terrorism.

    And you're right: 99.5% of Christians don't murder people in broad daylight in a church. But you don't hear about those ones. Rather, you hear about the ones who blow up abortion clinics and kill abortion providers, which is a great disservice to Christians everywhere.

  14. by avatar sandorski
    Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:37 am
    "commanderkai" said
    Comparing how often there is an attempt on an abortion doctor to the number of people who die in car accidents is kinda "apples and oranges" isn't it?


    Yes, it is. The only problem is, shit like this happens. People get killed by nutjobs every day, and just because this one was an abortion doctor, here comes these people either blaming those loony Christians or Fox News, or whatever else. The fact Fox News was brought up ignores the fact this guy was almost murdered 3 years before the station even existed.

    Look at some of the other posts. They talk about "right to life" supporters, which mean religious citizens. The largest group of them in North America is Christianity of some sort. Stupid shit like this happens, but I don't expect environmental groups to apologize for the actions of the ELF, so why should Fox News or Christian groups do the same?

    WTF? Did you actually read what you're attempting to Defend?



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