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A 10year old divorcee.

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A 10year old divorcee.


Political | 206924 hits | Feb 03 9:52 pm | Posted by: DerbyX
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  1. by DerbyX
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:59 am
    Now some people will be tempted to attack the religion but I see this as evidence of progress. A few families clinging to old traditions and not an endemic believe. The girl bravely went for help and officials shocked that the practice still went on like that took immediate action. As a result other young girls are being saved and the Yemen govt changed their marriage laws. Thats progress.

    Modern ideas are taking hold and old beliefs are changing and all without forcing them at gun point no less.

  2. by hwacker
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:03 am
    "progress" yeah ok, how about we wipe them off the map, that would be progress.

    Anybody that thinks this is progress really should be upping the meds.

  3. by avatar Brenda
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:09 am
    OMG what a brave little girl!
    Kudo's to the judge too!

    Thanks Derb ;-)

  4. by avatar Brenda
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:11 am
    "hwacker" said
    "progress" yeah ok, how about we wipe them off the map, that would be progress.

    Anybody that thinks this is progress really should be upping the meds.

    Jesus Hwack, can't you make ONE post without being insulting?

    This is a f*ckin brave little girl, who changed a couple of things in her country. You should applaud her, instead of insulting others.

    I know it is hard for you to grasp change, even positive change, but hell, if you have nothing good to say about this story, you might as well sthu.

  5. by DerbyX
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:14 am
    "Brenda" said
    "progress" yeah ok, how about we wipe them off the map, that would be progress.

    Anybody that thinks this is progress really should be upping the meds.

    Jesus Hwack, can't you make ONE post without being insulting?

    This is a f*ckin brave little girl, who changed a couple of things in her country. You should applaud her, instead of insulting others.

    I know it is hard for you to gasp change, even possitive change, but hell, if you have nothing good to say about this story, you might as well sthu.

    That explains his mentality doesn't it. That girl showed more bravery then he ever has and in a land where obviously this thing isn't the norm, hence the swift official reaction in changing the law he wants to exterminate them all.

    What a wonderful man. :roll:

  6. by hwacker
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:30 am
    "Brenda" said
    "progress" yeah ok, how about we wipe them off the map, that would be progress.

    Anybody that thinks this is progress really should be upping the meds.

    Jesus Hwack, can't you make ONE post without being insulting?

    This is a f*ckin brave little girl, who changed a couple of things in her country. You should applaud her, instead of insulting others.

    I know it is hard for you to gasp change, even possitive change, but hell, if you have nothing good to say about this story, you might as well sthu.

    I don't think this is "PROGRESS" this shit has been going on for centuries and nobody says anything because we might upset the muzzies. They are a backward religion based around a pedophile, monkey see monkey do.

    I’ve been on their ass ever since I was old enough to read about the cult, spare me the accolades will ya.

    Oh and tell DX to get off his soap box, What you read here is nothing to what is really happening in the world of islam.

  7. by avatar Bacardi4206
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:40 pm
    I am sorry but I don't see the change? They still have the same old laws, and little girls are still getting married off to older guys despite those laws. Nothing has changed except this little girl was brave enough to divorce him.

    Little girls are still being married off at the same rate, and the law's set in place are still not taking effect against these people.

    Tell me what has changed?

  8. by avatar commanderkai
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:47 pm
    "DerbyX" said
    Now some people will be tempted to attack the religion but I see this as evidence of progress. A few families clinging to old traditions and not an endemic believe. The girl bravely went for help and officials shocked that the practice still went on like that took immediate action. As a result other young girls are being saved and the Yemen govt changed their marriage laws. Thats progress.



    "A few families clinging to tradition..." Ummm....okay you can call it that.

    The progress is that one girl out of how many thousands got a divorce. Before that, who knows what happened to her.

  9. by DerbyX
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:56 pm
    Thats because neither one of you are reading the important aspects of the story,

    Nujood finally found her moment to escape one day, when her mother gave her a few pennies and sent her out to buy bread. Instead she took a bus to the center of the capital, Sanaa — a city of 3 million people — where she hailed a taxi and asked to be taken to the courthouse. She had never been inside a courtroom but had once seen one on television, she says, and knew it was a place where people went for help. There she sat silently on a bench, uncertain as to what to do, while crowds of people scurried past, scarcely glancing at the quiet child. It was only once the courthouse emptied during the lunch recess that the judge noticed her and asked why she was there. "I came for a divorce," she told him. he took her to his house to play with his 8-year-old daughter, and granted the divorce two days later.


    That looks very much to me that an official who in the past might have sent her straight back to her husband was horrified to discover a 10 year old bride. Without any thought to old traditions or laws or without the usual lawful permission of the husband he granted her a divorce out of hand.

    THAT is progress. In addition:

    Shaken by the testimony of violence during her divorce trial, Yemen's lawmakers raised the minimum age of marriage from 15 to 18. Two other girls in Sanaa — one age 9, the other 12 — have since sued for divorce, while an 8-year-old in Saudi Arabia has won a divorce suit, apparently inspired by Nujood's tale. Nujood says she hopes to ignite a far broader movement of girls to quit their child marriages, adding, "They should not be scared of their fathers or their husbands."


    THATS progress. Its modern ideas permeating. It will take time.

    Whats your solution? Use hwankers suggestion that because some of them practice awful traditions that our culture used to we kill them all via nukes?

    We invade and force modernization at gun point and wash our hands of the blood of killing a bunch of those child brides assuaging ourselves of the guilt that we killed them for a good cause?

    The fact is that modern ideology and progressive thinking is making progress and its happening as it should, under their own power.

  10. by avatar Brenda
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:11 pm
    That is exactly what I read. I guess we were the only ones, Derb.

    The legal age is now 18. Of course there will be arranged marriages. Change is hard to take. Hell, just look at what happens here, when someone says: hey guys, you could do it this way too. It takes time, sometimes generations. GIVE THEM THAT FREAKIN TIME. Those girls are starting a new generation of hope. They are changing their worlds, lifes, laws.

    If you don't see that progress, you better up your meds...
    :twisted:

  11. by avatar commanderkai
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:06 pm
    Keep reading.

    "That might be easier said than done, especially in cultures where a girl's honor is held as supremely important. Minoui, who has spent considerable time with Nujood, says the girl still risks attacks from male relatives who believe she has sullied the family's reputation. But her fame appears to have protected her from that possibility for now. (Read the story on what divorce does to kids.)"

    Progress indeed. Seeing a few feel good stories about divorce of what? 4 little girls? Shows that they're brave individuals, but the mindset continues. Who knows how many thousands have faced this and will face this. The legal age doesn't matter if these marriages continue to happen, and this is still systematic among the religious segments of their population.

    So now that eight year old girl is under threat of being murdered by her own family, after her father sent her off to get married, and on top of that, raped. The fact that the little girl had some courage is a great story, and the government official did a good thing too...but the father and the husband are still free, no doubt, and so is the imam who married the girl to the child predator.

  12. by avatar Brenda
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:14 pm
    It takes time. This is a start. It is not in a standstill anymore, people are starting to realize it is not good. Change doesn't happen overnight, like this way of living (or culture, just a matter of how you want to call it) didn't happen overnight.

    I really like to see in 25 years what progress has been made.

  13. by avatar martin14
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:21 pm
    "Brenda" said
    It takes time. This is a start. It is not in a standstill anymore, people are starting to realize it is not good. Change doesn't happen overnight, like this way of living (or culture, just a matter of how you want to call it) didn't happen overnight.

    I really like to see in 25 years what progress has been made.



    but is it a pattern, or an aberration ?

  14. by DerbyX
    Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:23 pm
    "commanderkai" said
    Keep reading.

    "That might be easier said than done, especially in cultures where a girl's honor is held as supremely important. Minoui, who has spent considerable time with Nujood, says the girl still risks attacks from male relatives who believe she has sullied the family's reputation. But her fame appears to have protected her from that possibility for now. (Read the story on what divorce does to kids.)"

    Progress indeed. Seeing a few feel good stories about divorce of what? 4 little girls? Shows that they're brave individuals, but the mindset continues. Who knows how many thousands have faced this and will face this. The legal age doesn't matter if these marriages continue to happen, and this is still systematic among the religious segments of their population.

    So now that eight year old girl is under threat of being murdered by her own family, after her father sent her off to get married, and on top of that, raped. The fact that the little girl had some courage is a great story, and the government official did a good thing too...but the father and the husband are still free, no doubt, and so is the imam who married the girl to the child predator.


    Like I said, you aren't reading the important parts that yes things are changing.

    You simply have no idea how hard it is for people to change. We took generations to adapt to womens rights or do you forget women weren't considered people here either. They were beaten and killed for trying to get the vote.

    Again, your only solution is what?

    Another invasion? Bomb them? A moment ago you were cheering because the Iraqis voted under harsher conditions then most WW2 POW camps yet cannot see that this type of action is exactly how things change.

    You don't want these people to obtain modern (I'll point out you truly mean your personal view of modern ideas) on their own. You want them to be forced to do so at gun point because you figure they should be forced to do in a few years what we took several generations to do.



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