Well, if teachers are "grossly overpaid" then so are soldiers. The reality however is that most soldiers could not handle the responsibility of a teacher and many teachers could not handle the responsibility of a soldier. Of course, those that have no experience as either a teacher or soldier are in no position to indicate which is worth more, either.
I have the good sense to be neutral on this question.
I consider myself to be paid very well, and all my living expenses are guarunteed to be covered.
So at 19, not only am I making more money than any of my other fellow highschool graduates, it will take 10 years for the doctors paying 100 000+ per year in student loans to catch up to the amount of money I made, without the same benifits, and without the same promise of stability.
So not only are we paid well, we are stable and secure, which is more valuable than anything else in this country. No one should have a reason to complain today... But I can't speak for how it was 10 years ago, as I was only 9 at the time.
"Bibbi" said Well, if teachers are "grossly overpaid" then so are soldiers. The reality however is that most soldiers could not handle the responsibility of a teacher and many teachers could not handle the responsibility of a soldier. Of course, those that have no experience as either a teacher or soldier are in no position to indicate which is worth more, either.
I have the good sense to be neutral on this question.
I've been a member of the military and a teacher. I had some excellent instructors in the military and had some teachers that would likely have made formidable NCOs. Both fulfil different roles within a society, so it's like comparing apples to oranges.
I think Mr Smol has spent his entire life in a fairly closeted environment.
His military experience was gained prior to Canada's entry into combat in Afghanistan.
He's correct that most soldiers recieve a decent wage, subsidized housing, and live in parts of Canada that are relatively affordable (with a few notable exceptions like Victoria where they recieve a top-up). But they make a trade off for that benefit. They have to die when we as Canadians, tell them to.
Teachers receive a decent wage, put in only a fraction of the time annually that most Canadian workers are expected to put in, and get a great pension.
Instead of his comparisons with soldiers, who run the risk of dying on a fairly regular basis, Mr Smol should try comparing his lot in life to that of the average wage slave. Yeah, teachers are important. But so are lathe operators. Without private sector lathe operators, there's nobody to pay the salary of the publicly supported teachers.
Plumbers are important too. Ever had a back up in your toilet? And they do several years of post secondary education, just like teachers. Unlike teachers though, plumbers don't get generous pensions at 55.
How about more educated types? Nurses make about the same as teachers, with the same level of education. But they work shifts, work year round with far less vacation, and don't have PD days.
"ShepherdsDog" said Well, if teachers are "grossly overpaid" then so are soldiers. The reality however is that most soldiers could not handle the responsibility of a teacher and many teachers could not handle the responsibility of a soldier. Of course, those that have no experience as either a teacher or soldier are in no position to indicate which is worth more, either.
I have the good sense to be neutral on this question.
I've been a member of the military and a teacher. I had some excellent instructors in the military and had some teachers that would likely have made formidable NCOs. Both fulfil different roles within a society, so it's like comparing apples to oranges.
"Canadian_Mind" said your post exemplifies why we as a society can only work in a system where we support eachother.
And from what i gathered the guy was speaking from a soldiers point of view, Albiet a reservists POV.
The capitalist system dictates that we shall support each other. That's done out of necessity. Soldiers and teachers can't exist without the labour of the Auto worker and the welder.
And all of them are enriched by Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand."
The problem arises when the service providers like teachers, cops, nurses and firemen start to think that they're way more important that the welders, plumbers, janitors, and assembly line workers who are paying their salaries.
"StuntmanMike" said your post exemplifies why we as a society can only work in a system where we support eachother.
And from what i gathered the guy was speaking from a soldiers point of view, Albiet a reservists POV.
The capitalist system dictates that we shall support each other. That's done out of necessity. Soldiers and teachers can't exist without the labour of the Auto worker and the welder.
And all of them are enriched by Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand."
The problem arises when the service providers like teachers, cops, nurses and firemen start to think that they're way more important that the welders, plumbers, janitors, and assembly line workers who are paying their salaries.
Teachers can't, but soldiers can. If the government of Canada runs out of money the Bank of Canada can just print more bills and puts them into the military coffers.
Teachers can't, but soldiers can. If the government of Canada runs out of money the Bank of Canada can just print more bills and puts them into the military coffers.
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I have the good sense to be neutral on this question.
So at 19, not only am I making more money than any of my other fellow highschool graduates, it will take 10 years for the doctors paying 100 000+ per year in student loans to catch up to the amount of money I made, without the same benifits, and without the same promise of stability.
So not only are we paid well, we are stable and secure, which is more valuable than anything else in this country. No one should have a reason to complain today... But I can't speak for how it was 10 years ago, as I was only 9 at the time.
Well, if teachers are "grossly overpaid" then so are soldiers. The reality however is that most soldiers could not handle the responsibility of a teacher and many teachers could not handle the responsibility of a soldier. Of course, those that have no experience as either a teacher or soldier are in no position to indicate which is worth more, either.
I have the good sense to be neutral on this question.
I've been a member of the military and a teacher. I had some excellent instructors in the military and had some teachers that would likely have made formidable NCOs. Both fulfil different roles within a society, so it's like comparing apples to oranges.
His military experience was gained prior to Canada's entry into combat in Afghanistan.
He's correct that most soldiers recieve a decent wage, subsidized housing, and live in parts of Canada that are relatively affordable (with a few notable exceptions like Victoria where they recieve a top-up). But they make a trade off for that benefit. They have to die when we as Canadians, tell them to.
Teachers receive a decent wage, put in only a fraction of the time annually that most Canadian workers are expected to put in, and get a great pension.
Instead of his comparisons with soldiers, who run the risk of dying on a fairly regular basis, Mr Smol should try comparing his lot in life to that of the average wage slave. Yeah, teachers are important. But so are lathe operators. Without private sector lathe operators, there's nobody to pay the salary of the publicly supported teachers.
Plumbers are important too. Ever had a back up in your toilet? And they do several years of post secondary education, just like teachers. Unlike teachers though, plumbers don't get generous pensions at 55.
How about more educated types? Nurses make about the same as teachers, with the same level of education. But they work shifts, work year round with far less vacation, and don't have PD days.
Teachers need to grow up and join the real world.
And from what i gathered the guy was speaking from a soldiers point of view, Albiet a reservists POV.
Well, if teachers are "grossly overpaid" then so are soldiers. The reality however is that most soldiers could not handle the responsibility of a teacher and many teachers could not handle the responsibility of a soldier. Of course, those that have no experience as either a teacher or soldier are in no position to indicate which is worth more, either.
I have the good sense to be neutral on this question.
I've been a member of the military and a teacher. I had some excellent instructors in the military and had some teachers that would likely have made formidable NCOs. Both fulfil different roles within a society, so it's like comparing apples to oranges.
Totally agree!
your post exemplifies why we as a society can only work in a system where we support eachother.
And from what i gathered the guy was speaking from a soldiers point of view, Albiet a reservists POV.
The capitalist system dictates that we shall support each other. That's done out of necessity. Soldiers and teachers can't exist without the labour of the Auto worker and the welder.
And all of them are enriched by Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand."
The problem arises when the service providers like teachers, cops, nurses and firemen start to think that they're way more important that the welders, plumbers, janitors, and assembly line workers who are paying their salaries.
Teachers need to grow up and join the real world.
Well you've obviously qualified yourself with that opinion
your post exemplifies why we as a society can only work in a system where we support eachother.
And from what i gathered the guy was speaking from a soldiers point of view, Albiet a reservists POV.
The capitalist system dictates that we shall support each other. That's done out of necessity. Soldiers and teachers can't exist without the labour of the Auto worker and the welder.
And all of them are enriched by Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand."
The problem arises when the service providers like teachers, cops, nurses and firemen start to think that they're way more important that the welders, plumbers, janitors, and assembly line workers who are paying their salaries.
Teachers can't, but soldiers can. If the government of Canada runs out of money the Bank of Canada can just print more bills and puts them into the military coffers.
Teachers can't, but soldiers can. If the government of Canada runs out of money the Bank of Canada can just print more bills and puts them into the military coffers.
It's not quite that easy.