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5 Afghan children killed by government, NATO forces


Military | 206569 hits | Sep 02 7:01 am | Posted by: Eisensapper
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Foreign or Afghan forces killed five children in two separate incidents Monday, further inflaming tensions in the country over the killings of civilians by troops from the U.S. and other countries.

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  1. by avatar Streaker
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:04 pm
    What a surprise! More civvies killed by a bunch of trigger-happy yahoo soldiers.

    Oh well.... Not such a big deal: They were just hadjis.

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:30 pm
    "Streaker" said
    What a surprise! More civvies killed by a bunch of trigger-happy yahoo soldiers.



    You should enlist and show us how soldiering should really be done. :wink:

  3. by avatar Streaker
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:31 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    What a surprise! More civvies killed by a bunch of trigger-happy yahoo soldiers.



    You should enlist and show us how soldiering should really be done. :wink:

    Better still would be to get these clowns out of Afghanistan. They've already done enough damage.

  4. by Anonymous
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:35 pm
    "Streaker" said
    What a surprise! More civvies killed by a bunch of trigger-happy yahoo soldiers.



    You should enlist and show us how soldiering should really be done. :wink:

    Better still would be to get these clowns out of Afghanistan. They've already done enough damage.

    I can't wait for Eisensapper to respond :lol:

  5. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:41 pm
    "Streaker" said
    What a surprise! More civvies killed by a bunch of trigger-happy yahoo soldiers.



    You should enlist and show us how soldiering should really be done. :wink:

    Better still would be to get these clowns out of Afghanistan. They've already done enough damage.

    Again, you should enlist and show these clowns how soldiering should be done.

  6. by avatar Streaker
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:45 pm
    "BartSimpson" said


    You should enlist and show us how soldiering should really be done. :wink:


    Better still would be to get these clowns out of Afghanistan. They've already done enough damage.

    Again, you should enlist and show these clowns how soldiering should be done.

    Tell you what: Let's get the Canadians out of fighting your wars and you Americans can start pulling your weight in A-stan for a change.

    edited by mod

  7. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:02 pm
    "Streaker" said

    After all, far be it from me to deny American soldiers their time-honoured tradition of killing little brown children.


    Translation: It's easy for you to criticize from the safety of your home, but the thought of enlisting and experiencing the realities that the troops deal with is beneath you.

  8. by avatar Streaker
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:07 pm
    "BartSimpson" said

    After all, far be it from me to deny American soldiers their time-honoured tradition of killing little brown children.


    Translation: It's easy for you to criticize from the safety of your home, but the thought of enlisting and experiencing the realities that the troops deal with is beneath you.

    Those troops are all volunteers, right? No tears for them.

    I saddened by the death of these kids, though.

  9. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:18 pm
    "Streaker" said


    Those troops are all volunteers, right? No tears for them.

    I saddened by the death of these kids, though.


    You make me sick.

  10. by avatar Streaker
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:20 pm
    "BartSimpson" said


    Those troops are all volunteers, right? No tears for them.

    I saddened by the death of these kids, though.


    You make me sick.

    What about your apparent indifference to the death of children at the hands of soldiers?

  11. by avatar Streaker
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:34 pm
    "PENATRATOR" said
    You know as well as I do Bart, threads like this are the only place you see Streaker, infact he lives for such things to occur, I am sure he pulls his pathetic little prick to these stories. Odd how we don't hear of the thousands killed by the terrorists deliberately, debated on here much at all, though I am sure Streak would find some way to side with the Taliban.

    Fuck him, he is a coward who gets his ideals through the like of Eric Margolis and/or other half truths reported in the media, if he were ever in a position of harm, he would shit his cowardly self, he is a weasle.


    Fascinating stuff, PENATRATOR....


    Now.... How do you feel about about those dead kids?

    Will killing kids win their hearts and minds?

  12. by avatar Scape
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:39 pm
    Donald Rumsfeld’s doctrine of doing counterinsurgency warfare on the cheap, with very few troops and lots of air strikes, means that the ISAF has very little local intelligence and has to depend on air power, which worked well enough in the initial defeat of the Taliban in 2002, but just plain doesn’t work in counterinsurgency warfare, because that kind of warfare is about not firing until you know exactly who you’re shooting at.

    The guerrillas don’t lose a single fighter in an operation like that. In fact, they gain huge numbers of recruits because everyone who hears about the air strike wants to volunteer to avenge the dead. By trying to do Afghanistan on the cheap, following the Rumsfeld Doctrine that air power can do everything, we’ve played right into the hands of the new and improved Taliban.


    That surge can't come soon enough. We need boots on the ground and Afgans need to be able to go about their day without fear. Air strikes during the day while the Pashtun insurgency threaten locals at night is not going to make that happen. Threatening the Taliban without understanding what it is to be a Pashtun is as effective as singling out Protestant Catholics while committing to a campaign that attacks all Catholics. You only end up stirring the hornets nest.
    The reason you don’t hear so much about the ethnic angle is simple: Neither side wants to push that angle in its propaganda. The Taliban would like to claim to be defending Islam, and the Americans are happy to go along with that, so they can say we’re fighting Islamic terror. But the fact is that the Taliban stands for old-school Pashtun tradition more than for Islam. And the Taliban is divided even further, with complicated loyalties to local warlords and tribal chiefs. There are three main factions right now, and the one that runs Kunar Province is run by an old friend of the CIA’s from the 1980s, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. Hekmatyar was always a tough guy to handle, for the CIA and the Pakistani intelligence service, ISI, and when the foreign troops finally withdraw, it’s a safe bet that his faction of the Taliban will just switch to fighting the other two. But for now, the three factions seem pretty solidly united against the ISAF, the American-dominated occupying force.


    So right now we are fighting on the same side as the Pakistani ISI. As far as I am concerned they may be wearing white hats but they are all black inside as they are the one who founded the Taliban to begin with with help from the CIA.

    half of Taliban manpower and equipment originate(d) in Pakistan under the ISI
    In assessing the alleged links between the terrorists and the ISI, it should be understood that Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad as head of the ISI was a "US approved appointee". As head of the ISI since 1999, he was in liaison with his US counterparts in the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the Pentagon. Also bear in mind that Pakistan's ISI remained throughout the entire post Cold War era until the present, the launch pad for CIA covert operations in the Caucasus, Central Asia and the Balkans 22

    In other words, General Mahmoud Ahmad as head of the ISI was serving US foreign policy interests. His dismissal on the orders of Washington was not the result of a fundamental political disagreement. Without US support channeled through the Pakistani ISI, the Taliban would not have been able to form a government in 1996. Jane Defense Weekly confirms in this regard that "half of Taliban manpower and equipment originate in Pakistan under the ISI," which in turn was supported by the US.23 Moreover, the assassination of the leader of the Northern Alliance General Ahmad Shah Masood --in which the ISI is alleged to have been implicated-- was not in contradiction with US foreign policy objectives. Since the late 1980s, the US had consistently sought to side-track and weaken Masood who was perceived as a nationalist reformer, by providing support to both to the Taliban and the Hezb-I-Islami group led by Gulbuddin Hektmayar against Masood .

  13. by avatar Tricks
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:52 pm
    "PENATRATOR" said
    You know as well as I do Bart, threads like this are the only place you see Streaker, infact he lives for such things to occur, I am sure he pulls his pathetic little prick to these stories. Odd how we don't hear of the thousands killed by the terrorists deliberately, debated on here much at all, though I am sure Streak would find some way to side with the Taliban.

    Fuck him, he is a coward who gets his ideals through the like of Eric Margolis and/or other half truths reported in the media, if he were ever in a position of harm, he would shit his cowardly self, he is a weasle.

    Pen I would give you + rep for that, but I can't so soon after giving it to Bart, so here's a R=UP instead :lol:

  14. by ridenrain
    Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:11 pm
    "Streaker" said
    What a surprise! More civvies killed by a bunch of trigger-happy yahoo soldiers.

    Oh well.... Not such a big deal: They were just hadjis.



    You are human garbage.
    I wonder if Jihad Jack will be mouthing off about Canadian terrorists again. I hope not. I'm relying on him to take some votes from the Liberals in this election and that won't work if he acts like his usual retarted self.

    I wonder how many died in Darfur today.. or can't we talk about that because the Chinese are running that show? POS media.



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