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Bill that makes hurting a fetus, a criminal offense, passes 2nd Reading


Political | 206653 hits | Mar 08 4:45 pm | Posted by: westmanguy
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  1. by avatar westmanguy
    Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:52 am
    The Prime Minister voted in favour of this bill! :D

    Some of the MPs of the opposition parties (excluding most of the New Democrats) supported the bill.

    I will say this, anyone who doesn't support this bill is Pro-Abortion, and I don't use that term lightly.

    This bill is Pro-Choice, in its purest form. It recognizes that a woman who chooses to carry her unborn child to term, deserves to have that fetus receive protection under the law.

    Yay! It passed 2nd reading...but that ass Pat Martin (NDP-Winnipeg), says he is going to try with all his might to block it in committee. The committee on this is evenly split with 6 for the bill, and 6 against it.

    Most Liberals MPs suported the bill, considering the party doesn't have an abortion stance (just like the Conservatives), and the fact that polls on abortion and abortion related issues like this have shown a whopping 75% of Canadians support a 2nd criminal charge of murder for a person who knowingly kills a pregnant women.

  2. by avatar kenmore
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:48 am
    just another right wing religious tory tactic... keep religion out of parliament

  3. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:50 am
    well maybe we should end the laws dealing with murder and theft....they were based off of religious law too.

  4. by avatar novachick
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:50 am
    Why did i know without looking Westy started this thread :wink:

  5. by avatar kenmore
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:00 am
    face it .. tories are tight assed rednecked bible thumping right wingers who feel because they get elected they can force their crap on the rest of us...
    this law.. while it sounds fair on the outset is just a precursor for reversing the abortion law... lets face it.. like I say if these nuts get a majority they will set the country back 50 yrs... I am a Catholic but I believe in the right to choose...

  6. by avatar Durandal
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:04 am
    "kenmore" said
    just another right wing religious tory tactic... keep religion out of parliament


    Shut up. Religion is part of Canada, so religion has a place in Parliament. Actually, the name of God is inscibed on it. :wink:

    As for the bill, HOURRA :!: 8)

  7. by avatar westmanguy
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:04 am
    haha, nova.

    kenmore:

    Though shalt not steal.

    One of the Ten Commandments...should we remove theft from the criminal code?

    Gimme a break.

  8. by avatar sandorski
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:05 am
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    well maybe we should end the laws dealing with murder and theft....they were based off of religious law too.


    No, they are not. Religious Law is based on Laws that preceeded it.

  9. by avatar Durandal
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:40 am
    "sandorski" said
    No, they are not. Religious Law is based on Laws that preceeded it.


    :? :!:

    And what preeceded the Christian Law that is the basis of all Western Civ. law ? Greco-Roman pagan law ? Judaic law ? Either way, it's religious. :wink:

    Religion has allways been an integral part of our law, culture, life, society, communities. The only thing new today is hard-core secularists that pratically want religion to be banned from everywhere else than some lost caves in some remote mountains. :roll: Hide in the closet if you wanna read your Bible ! :evil:

  10. by avatar westmanguy
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:42 am
    Anyways this isn't about abortion.

    The Political Left is just trying to paint this as the "Slippery Slope"

  11. by avatar sandorski
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:46 am
    "Durandal" said
    No, they are not. Religious Law is based on Laws that preceeded it.


    :? :!:

    And what preeceded the Christian Law that is the basis of all Western Civ. law ? Greco-Roman pagan law ? Judaic law ? Either way, it's religious. :wink:

    Religion has allways been an integral part of our law, culture, life, society, communities. The only thing new today is hard-core secularists that pratically want religion to be banned from everywhere else than some lost caves in some remote mountains. :roll: Hide in the closet if you wanna read your Bible ! :evil:

    The Code of Hammurabi

    Not a Religious law, but a Law handed down by a King. There were other Codes of Law before even this one, but they have no record, only hints that Hammurabi based his on them.

    edit: Whine some more. Some of us are just interested in Truth and not what some want truth to be.

  12. by avatar Johnny_Utah
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:22 am
    "kenmore" said
    face it .. tories are tight assed rednecked bible thumping right wingers who feel because they get elected they can force their crap on the rest of us...
    this law.. while it sounds fair on the outset is just a precursor for reversing the abortion law... lets face it.. like I say if these nuts get a majority they will set the country back 50 yrs... I am a Catholic but I believe in the right to choose...

    Face It when the Liberals were in power Liberal, Quebec, Bloc Members like you didn't have a problem with Jean Chretien, Paul Martin forcing their crap on the rest of Canada so stop acting like a whiny Dion Hypocrite Bitch..

    For the record I'm also Catholic and while I believe Abortion is wrong and is used more as a method of birth control it still should be a woman's right to choose and the best way to counter it is through education rather then Laws..

  13. by avatar Tricks
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:40 am
    "kenmore" said
    face it .. tories are tight assed rednecked bible thumping right wingers who feel because they get elected they can force their crap on the rest of us...
    this law.. while it sounds fair on the outset is just a precursor for reversing the abortion law... lets face it.. like I say if these nuts get a majority they will set the country back 50 yrs... I am a Catholic but I believe in the right to choose...
    I'm a tory, and I'm an atheist.

  14. by avatar commanderkai
    Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:11 am
    Whats the problem with this? Even if you do want an abortion, it should be done legally, and not by some asshole swinging a baseball bat to your stomach. Or that if a girl wants to keep her baby, but the guy doesn't, that he shouldn't be punished for making her miscarry.


    This seems like common sense actually



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